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Re: Bad Dragon Banter

Postby Yak » Mon May 01, 2017 10:16 am

Harra wrote:
Yak wrote:Questions on measurements....

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I have a medium-sized Elden, and it's definitely longer than 6.5" usable. Using cloth measuring tape, I've gotten several different numbers depending on which way I measure usable: (~ = approximate)

Front side: 7"
Side (over knot) : ~7.5"
Back side: ~7"
Front side when held upright: 7.5"

I tried measuring Elden in a few different ways to see if I could get to the quoted 6.5", and the only thing I could get is if I measured off from where the toy droops, to the base. That comes out to about 6.5", but literally every other measurement I try comes out longer than that.

Personally, I'd love measurement reference pictures like EE and New Folklore do (and probably some others, but those are the first off the top of my head that do them). Just a simple little toy silhouette with lines across that show where they took their measurements. If BD did those, we might have fewer unpleasant surprises (like the large Blaze which, iirc, at least an inch larger circumference than the stated shaft circ. because wherever BD measured, it wasn't around that giant shaft bulge.)

Also, like blushingkitten mentioned, there's the user-submitted measurements sheet. Here's the topic thread! There should be at least a few of the models you asked for up there~ :widesmile:


yes- love how NFS and EE have those! totally agree with you there- I'll check the sheet again...

and it seems that Elden may be out (the individual in our party with a vag taps out @ 7inches- hence that range/boundary)
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Re: Bad Dragon Banter

Postby NaughtyMewMew » Mon May 01, 2017 12:21 pm

I need to decide how to go about getting Wrex and Grunt themed toys now. The release timing of Axel is pretty hilarious, considering how much a friend and I have been talking about Mass Effect porn and such recently. Just a shame Bad Dragon has limited the types of things they're willing to do for customs. Will make it harder to really get something good for those boys.
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Re: Bad Dragon Banter

Postby Aphrodite » Mon May 01, 2017 1:40 pm

trying to decide if I should get a medium spritz in soft or medium firmness (my other BD toys are mainly medium firmness).
Anyone care to share an opinion?

Closest toy I have that I can compare is a medium terra and I can just take the knot. WAs thinking a soft spritz may be easier but I also don't want to lose the firmness if it's a decent g-spot toy with that bit of a curve
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Re: Bad Dragon Banter

Postby Startrail » Tue May 02, 2017 2:30 am

Yak wrote:Questions on measurements....

in general, (is there a general) are models that are misquoted- are they *larger* then what the shop specs say?
smaller? simply random?
ty!

I dunno... L Gryphon measurements are inaccurate.

# Official vs My measurements
Usable length(everything except the base) -9 vs 9.25
Head circ. - 4 vs 3.93 (smaller)
Shaft circ.(thickest part) - 5.5 vs 5.5 (accurate)
Knot circ. - 8 vs 8.45 (bigger)
Total length: 10.3 vs 10.3

BD wtf?
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Re: Bad Dragon Banter

Postby Karhu » Tue May 02, 2017 5:48 am

Startrail wrote:BD wtf?
I'd guess that there are few things that lead to different results.

- Exact placement or ruler.
- Exact angle of the ruler.
- Counting or dismiss of every shape, meaning if there is air between the ruler and the object.

I'd guess BD would need to add measurement pictures to satisfy this long going measure critique, meaning that there could be pictures of how and where the values have been taken from. Most of these toys have shapes, angles, texture, knots and other very difficult to measure proportions. I can understand how important it is to find the exact measure to find the sweet spot of meaningful touch and comfort of use.
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Re: Bad Dragon Banter

Postby TheOtherDude » Tue May 02, 2017 1:18 pm

Late follow-up regarding the newsletter!

I've contacted CS about this today. They said the current newsletter system does not allow anyone to resubscribe with an email address that was once subscribed and then unsubscribed. (wtf? :bugeyed: )
Also there are no success or failure messages in general upon clicking the button, so you're always left to guess if it actually worked or not.
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The workaround is, you need to change your account's email address to some other address that has not yet been subscribed to BD's newsletter, then attempt to resubscribe, and afterwards you can change your account's email address back to what it was before. I've done it this way, and CS confirmed the address I temporarily set my account's address to was indeed put on the newsletter recipient list.

I'm lucky to have my own email server so I can just set up an alias that still puts all the mail in my regular inbox, but other people in my situation might have to register a new account with some freemail provider and check another account on a regular basis along with their already existing account(s).

CS said they forwarded my suggestion to change how this works to the appropriate people, so there's hope.
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Re: Bad Dragon Banter

Postby Rainbow Dasher » Tue May 02, 2017 5:48 pm

Startrail wrote:
Yak wrote:Questions on measurements....

in general, (is there a general) are models that are misquoted- are they *larger* then what the shop specs say?
smaller? simply random?
ty!

I dunno... L Gryphon measurements are inaccurate.

# Official vs My measurements
Usable length(everything except the base) -9 vs 9.25
Head circ. - 4 vs 3.93 (smaller)
Shaft circ.(thickest part) - 5.5 vs 5.5 (accurate)
Knot circ. - 8 vs 8.45 (bigger)
Total length: 10.3 vs 10.3

BD wtf?


Many of the measurements on BD's product pages are wrong. They tend to measure (on all toys) mid-shaft, which often doesn't give you the measure of the widest point. However, there have been instances where toys measured at the widest point, are still way off, some by as much as 2" circumference. It's always best to ask, here, on the forums before purchasing a toy, to make sure the product information is correct and the toy, for you, is usable.
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Re: Bad Dragon Banter

Postby Gargoyle242 » Tue May 02, 2017 8:30 pm

Rainbow Dasher wrote:
Startrail wrote:
Yak wrote:Questions on measurements....

in general, (is there a general) are models that are misquoted- are they *larger* then what the shop specs say?
smaller? simply random?
ty!

I dunno... L Gryphon measurements are inaccurate.

# Official vs My measurements
Usable length(everything except the base) -9 vs 9.25
Head circ. - 4 vs 3.93 (smaller)
Shaft circ.(thickest part) - 5.5 vs 5.5 (accurate)
Knot circ. - 8 vs 8.45 (bigger)
Total length: 10.3 vs 10.3

BD wtf?


Many of the measurements on BD's product pages are wrong. They tend to measure (on all toys) mid-shaft, which often doesn't give you the measure of the widest point. However, there have been instances where toys measured at the widest point, are still way off, some by as much as 2" circumference. It's always best to ask, here, on the forums before purchasing a toy, to make sure the product information is correct and the toy, for you, is usable.

I'm thinking about ticketing CS to suggest they do a complete overhaul of their measurements. Idk how many people(if any) have said anything to them, but unless they are made aware of it, it'll never be fixed.
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Re: Bad Dragon Banter

Postby ChaosRed » Tue May 02, 2017 8:41 pm

Gargoyle242 wrote:
Rainbow Dasher wrote:
Startrail wrote:I dunno... L Gryphon measurements are inaccurate.

# Official vs My measurements
Usable length(everything except the base) -9 vs 9.25
Head circ. - 4 vs 3.93 (smaller)
Shaft circ.(thickest part) - 5.5 vs 5.5 (accurate)
Knot circ. - 8 vs 8.45 (bigger)
Total length: 10.3 vs 10.3

BD wtf?


Many of the measurements on BD's product pages are wrong. They tend to measure (on all toys) mid-shaft, which often doesn't give you the measure of the widest point. However, there have been instances where toys measured at the widest point, are still way off, some by as much as 2" circumference. It's always best to ask, here, on the forums before purchasing a toy, to make sure the product information is correct and the toy, for you, is usable.

I'm thinking about ticketing CS to suggest they do a complete overhaul of their measurements. Idk how many people(if any) have said anything to them, but unless they are made aware of it, it'll never be fixed.


Here's hoping they listen. I like the toys, but with how wide the sizes can vary, you really wanna know the size the toy is before buying.
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Re: Bad Dragon Banter

Postby Rainbow Dasher » Tue May 02, 2017 8:53 pm

ChaosRed wrote:
Gargoyle242 wrote:
Rainbow Dasher wrote:
Many of the measurements on BD's product pages are wrong. They tend to measure (on all toys) mid-shaft, which often doesn't give you the measure of the widest point. However, there have been instances where toys measured at the widest point, are still way off, some by as much as 2" circumference. It's always best to ask, here, on the forums before purchasing a toy, to make sure the product information is correct and the toy, for you, is usable.

I'm thinking about ticketing CS to suggest they do a complete overhaul of their measurements. Idk how many people(if any) have said anything to them, but unless they are made aware of it, it'll never be fixed.


Here's hoping they listen. I like the toys, but with how wide the sizes can vary, you really wanna know the size the toy is before buying.


They won't; they adamently insist that their measurements are correct, I still like when I asked them about the large Ridgeback, and that was after asking a user on the forum to measure theirs at the widest point, which was a hair over 10" circumference. CS continually insisted that, for the large, the 7-something-inches on the website was correct. They closed the discussion immediately when I linked them to the forum post with proof pictures, stating otherwise. They don't care; they won't change anything.

people have asked before and CS just continually insists that the measurements are all correct. One of these days, someone is going to end up hurt because they wound up with something larger than advertised. Happened to me when I was first starting out, twice, buying toys waaaaaaay too large for me at that time. Had I known the proper sizes from the get-go, I wouldn't have ordered them at all.

That's why I'm glad we have users here who are doing that one spreadsheet thing, to properly document toy sizes and measurements that allow other people to see exactly what they're getting.
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Re: Bad Dragon Banter

Postby ChaosRed » Tue May 02, 2017 9:02 pm

Rainbow Dasher wrote:They won't; they adamently insist that their measurements are correct, I still like when I asked them about the large Ridgeback, and that was after asking a user on the forum to measure theirs at the widest point, which was a hair over 10" circumference. CS continually insisted that, for the large, the 7-something-inches on the website was correct. They closed the discussion immediately when I linked them to the forum post with proof pictures, stating otherwise. They don't care; they won't change anything.

people have asked before and CS just continually insists that the measurements are all correct. One of these days, someone is going to end up hurt because they wound up with something larger than advertised. Happened to me when I was first starting out, twice, buying toys waaaaaaay too large for me at that time. Had I known the proper sizes from the get-go, I wouldn't have ordered them at all.

That's why I'm glad we have users here who are doing that one spreadsheet thing, to properly document toy sizes and measurements that allow other people to see exactly what they're getting.


Do you know if the comparison sheet on the forum is the accurate one or if it's just the info from the site?
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Re: Bad Dragon Banter

Postby Gargoyle242 » Tue May 02, 2017 9:08 pm

ChaosRed wrote:
Rainbow Dasher wrote:They won't; they adamently insist that their measurements are correct, I still like when I asked them about the large Ridgeback, and that was after asking a user on the forum to measure theirs at the widest point, which was a hair over 10" circumference. CS continually insisted that, for the large, the 7-something-inches on the website was correct. They closed the discussion immediately when I linked them to the forum post with proof pictures, stating otherwise. They don't care; they won't change anything.

people have asked before and CS just continually insists that the measurements are all correct. One of these days, someone is going to end up hurt because they wound up with something larger than advertised. Happened to me when I was first starting out, twice, buying toys waaaaaaay too large for me at that time. Had I known the proper sizes from the get-go, I wouldn't have ordered them at all.

That's why I'm glad we have users here who are doing that one spreadsheet thing, to properly document toy sizes and measurements that allow other people to see exactly what they're getting.


Do you know if the comparison sheet on the forum is the accurate one or if it's just the info from the site?

It's legit, from forum users. I've contributed a few measurements myself.
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They won't; they adamently insist that their measurements are correct, I still like when I asked them about the large Ridgeback, and that was after asking a user on the forum to measure theirs at the widest point, which was a hair over 10" circumference. CS continually insisted that, for the large, the 7-something-inches on the website was correct. They closed the discussion immediately when I linked them to the forum post with proof pictures, stating otherwise. They don't care; they won't change anything.

people have asked before and CS just continually insists that the measurements are all correct. One of these days, someone is going to end up hurt because they wound up with something larger than advertised. Happened to me when I was first starting out, twice, buying toys waaaaaaay too large for me at that time. Had I known the proper sizes from the get-go, I wouldn't have ordered them at all.

That's why I'm glad we have users here who are doing that one spreadsheet thing, to properly document toy sizes and measurements that allow other people to see exactly what they're getting.

I hear ya. And there are plenty of people like me who didn't even know about the forum until after their 1st purchase(s). I'm glad I discovered this forum when I did.
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Re: Bad Dragon Banter

Postby Willow » Tue May 02, 2017 10:02 pm

Rainbow Dasher wrote:
ChaosRed wrote:
Gargoyle242 wrote:I'm thinking about ticketing CS to suggest they do a complete overhaul of their measurements. Idk how many people(if any) have said anything to them, but unless they are made aware of it, it'll never be fixed.


Here's hoping they listen. I like the toys, but with how wide the sizes can vary, you really wanna know the size the toy is before buying.


They won't; they adamently insist that their measurements are correct, I still like when I asked them about the large Ridgeback, and that was after asking a user on the forum to measure theirs at the widest point, which was a hair over 10" circumference. CS continually insisted that, for the large, the 7-something-inches on the website was correct. They closed the discussion immediately when I linked them to the forum post with proof pictures, stating otherwise. They don't care; they won't change anything.

people have asked before and CS just continually insists that the measurements are all correct. One of these days, someone is going to end up hurt because they wound up with something larger than advertised. Happened to me when I was first starting out, twice, buying toys waaaaaaay too large for me at that time. Had I known the proper sizes from the get-go, I wouldn't have ordered them at all.

That's why I'm glad we have users here who are doing that one spreadsheet thing, to properly document toy sizes and measurements that allow other people to see exactly what they're getting.


Yeah, I noticed this when I ordered the legacy Chance (before he was a legacy). It says the shaft circumference was 6.4". Bullshit. But did they correct it at any point? No. They did however mention it was inaccurate when the released the redesigned Chance... and his old page was removed so we were never allowed to see what the original size actually was (not that they would change the page when taking it down). I just wanted to use that as a base of what width would work for me.
I did happen to catch a size listing when they had an extinction sale and had a legacy Chance on there. 5.5". That's a HUGE discrepancy from the original measurement. Are using the same methods today?
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Re: Bad Dragon Banter

Postby Squirrelmunk » Wed May 03, 2017 4:30 am

TheOtherDude wrote:I'm lucky to have my own email server so I can just set up an alias that still puts all the mail in my regular inbox, but other people in my situation might have to register a new account with some freemail provider and check another account on a regular basis along with their already existing account(s).

Or forward everything from your secondary account to your primary. Only takes a minute to set up.

With gmail, putting a period at a random place in your address should also work. BD will (hopefully) interpret it as a new address, but the newsletter will still arrive in the same inbox.
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Re: Bad Dragon Banter

Postby Aphrodite » Wed May 03, 2017 9:15 am

Has BD always put "silicone sculpture" on their mailing labels? Just got a delivery and the UPS guy appeared to be amused by the description ha
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Re: Bad Dragon Banter

Postby Stephen » Wed May 03, 2017 9:19 am

Aphrodite wrote:Has BD always put "silicone sculpture" on their mailing labels? Just got a delivery and the UPS guy appeared to be amused by the description ha

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Re: Bad Dragon Banter

Postby ChaosRed » Wed May 03, 2017 9:52 am

Aphrodite wrote:Has BD always put "silicone sculpture" on their mailing labels? Just got a delivery and the UPS guy appeared to be amused by the description ha


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Re: Bad Dragon Banter

Postby Niah » Wed May 03, 2017 10:45 am

ChaosRed wrote:
Aphrodite wrote:Has BD always put "silicone sculpture" on their mailing labels? Just got a delivery and the UPS guy appeared to be amused by the description ha


As far as I know


It was a change made by UPS in the past year or so for domestic shipping. International orders have always had it because of customs. UPS started adding it to the labels for domestic orders. FedEx only has it for international orders. It's less a decision by BD and more one by UPS.
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Re: Bad Dragon Banter

Postby Muffy » Wed May 03, 2017 10:57 am

I get a knowing smile from the concierge lady when I go to pick up my orders haha. I just hug the silicone sculpture box to my chest and say, 'MINE!' before scurrying off. I wonder if she shops here as well. :blush:

At first I was a bit shy about the wording on the box. But since I -really- look forward to my purchases it's become sort of a Pavlovian giddy reaction when I see it.

And now for some reason, I look for the wording on every 'toy shaped' box I see. :laugh:
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Re: Bad Dragon Banter

Postby Idra » Wed May 03, 2017 1:24 pm

Bought a flop Axel to give a try. I'm not sure how I feel about the head being tipped back like that (I hope I can feel the head and not just the shaft swell) and I hope those balls don't completely weigh it down and make it hard to thrust with, but... I'm hopeful! And it's in rogue Shimmerscale so it's absolutely beautiful! I've always wanted a toy in Shimmerscale :3 I'm cautiously excited!
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