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Re: Bad Dragon Banter

Postby HungryStray » Sat Oct 01, 2016 8:10 pm

Idra wrote:
HungryStray wrote:I don't think it's either one of those to be honest. Opal is a gargantuan pain in the ass but one more/less week of it isn't going to make that big of a difference. I think it just happens to be the way the schedule runs.

I dunno, man... It could be the schedule, but on the other hand, every other month's color ends on time, sooooo why this particular month? Except that Opal's a giant pain to pour, which I totally believe?

A week less might not make a whole lot of difference to the order volume, but hey, they'll only have to pour it for three weeks xD

They may have all ended on time but not all of them started on time. Alexandrite started on the 3rd and Emerald on the 6th of their respective months. I'm guessing Opal will be the same.
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Re: Bad Dragon Banter

Postby Amaranthe » Sat Oct 01, 2016 8:22 pm

I dunno about start/end dates for the monthly colors, but is anybody else worried that they'll change up Opal a little like they did with Alexandrite? I would hope they would keep it the same because it's so popular, even though it's a pain. I guess we'll all just have to wait and see.
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Re: Bad Dragon Banter

Postby HungryStray » Sat Oct 01, 2016 8:32 pm

Amaranthe wrote:I dunno about start/end dates for the monthly colors, but is anybody else worried that they'll change up Opal a little like they did with Alexandrite? I would hope they would keep it the same because it's so popular, even though it's a pain. I guess we'll all just have to wait and see.

Unless it was a flop from last year, there was/is? an Opal Tongue in adoptions that appeared to be of the same make as the ones that were done last year. It's possible that they might have tweaked the recipe but as it looks now I think Opal is in the clear.
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Re: Bad Dragon Banter

Postby Idra » Sat Oct 01, 2016 9:48 pm

HungryStray wrote:
Amaranthe wrote:I dunno about start/end dates for the monthly colors, but is anybody else worried that they'll change up Opal a little like they did with Alexandrite? I would hope they would keep it the same because it's so popular, even though it's a pain. I guess we'll all just have to wait and see.

Unless it was a flop from last year, there was/is? an Opal Tongue in adoptions that appeared to be of the same make as the ones that were done last year. It's possible that they might have tweaked the recipe but as it looks now I think Opal is in the clear.

There's one there now and I just adopted an Opal Tongue a couple of weeks ago and it looks the same as it did before. I don't think we have to worry about them tweaking it. :3 There's more pics of mine in the show me your tongue thread if you wanna see a recent example of Opal.
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Re: Bad Dragon Banter

Postby Amaranthe » Sun Oct 02, 2016 6:57 am

Yay! That's a relief. :blush:
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Re: Bad Dragon Banter

Postby Screamy » Sun Oct 02, 2016 5:35 pm

Will regular customers ever be able to get dicks like this crackers or is that kind of effort reserved for "gifts".

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Re: Bad Dragon Banter

Postby Drazard » Sun Oct 02, 2016 5:41 pm

Screamy wrote:Will regular customers ever be able to get dicks like this crackers or is that kind of effort reserved for "gifts".

Wow, that is an... involved pour. I understand why BD don't take custom orders that involve hand painting and such, but it really hits home how much of a shame that is when we get glimpses of toys like these.

Weirdly, I think the most striking thing for me is the gloss effect - never seen BD apply that before!
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Re: Bad Dragon Banter

Postby Moonmeat » Sun Oct 02, 2016 5:48 pm

TBH They will probably tell you it's not possible, mostly because they don't want to do the effort of nice things like that. People have asked plenty and they keep saying they're "not capable of doing such things". /eyeroll

Seems like if you're a camgirl or someone popular in the porn industry you won't get nice, regal things like those. Seems like they reserve the gratitude for anyone who isn't just an "average" customer. :eyeroll:
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Re: Bad Dragon Banter

Postby Vitani » Sun Oct 02, 2016 5:51 pm

This...pisses me off immensely, considering many of us have dropped thousands of dollars on products from BD....yet we all get treated as 'average customers'. :eyeroll:

Either do it, or don't. Charge extra. None of here would mind that I'm sure, for a custom we really want.
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Re: Bad Dragon Banter

Postby Vitani » Sun Oct 02, 2016 5:55 pm

Fruityrumpusasshole wrote:The gloss thing could help with printer texture :unamused:
And agree with vitani. Id be willing to pay extra and wait extra within reason. Look at how many people get stuff from ee.


Don't care so much about the complicated colors but...lol they do shit like this, and when I ask them to please pour me a toy in a mold without printer texture (cos some toys have it and some don't of the model and size im looking at) they tell me they cant do anything about that :/ Even though I don't care if it costs extra, or if my wait time is longer because of mold hold up...because I have a MEDICAL ISSUE. If I got a toy with that much printer texture, it would literally be 140$ for an UNUSABLE TOY. God i'm livid.
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Re: Bad Dragon Banter

Postby Moonmeat » Sun Oct 02, 2016 5:57 pm

Paying extra would be awesome; Cracker's texture ruined my insides but I *loved* his model. I feel like BD is being very... selfish? with the generosity they show to a small magnitude of their support base. :|

I mean it may not be super amazing to some, but Ruby has been spoiled with many *free* toys for review that I would gladly pay extra for but they won't do for what reason...?
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Re: Bad Dragon Banter

Postby T4Draf » Sun Oct 02, 2016 6:04 pm

That Crackers is ridiculously hot. :doh:
People would pay so much for that kind of work. Let them?
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Re: Bad Dragon Banter

Postby Amaranthe » Sun Oct 02, 2016 6:07 pm

I understand why they don't offer things like this for the general customer because I imagine with the volume of orders they get, and how popular it would be, it might not be realistic. HOWEVER, showing that they CAN do these things and giving them away to "special customers" really hurts customer relations. I'm irrationally angry about the patterning on that Crackers. I just... who even are those people? Why are they special? What is so great about them that they can get BD to do "impossible" colorations?? Is it because they are recognizable in some community, so their endorsement would be valuable? But how disappointed are the new customers who might find BD through them going to be when they find out that the good pours are only for the "special" people? Part of me wants to hope that hand painted details might be an offering in the future with the "big changes", but seeing as how fades are suddenly too difficult to do, I seriously doubt it. :misc4: :unamused:
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Re: Bad Dragon Banter

Postby Idra » Sun Oct 02, 2016 6:09 pm

Ha ha. Ha. Hahahahahaa. [continued bitter laughter]

And I can't even get a custom highlight color because BD doesn't want to be bothered? :mystery:


Amaranthe wrote:I understand why they don't offer things like this for the general customer because I imagine with the volume of orders they get, and how popular it would be, it might not be realistic. HOWEVER, showing that they CAN do these things and giving them away to "special customers" really hurts customer relations. I'm irrationally angry about the patterning on that Crackers. I just... who even are those people? Why are they special? What is so great about them that they can get BD to do "impossible" colorations?? Is it because they are recognizable in some community, so their endorsement would be valuable? But how disappointed are the new customers who might find BD through them going to be when they find out that the good pours are only for the "special" people? Part of me wants to hope that hand painted details might be an offering in the future with the "big changes", but seeing as how fades are suddenly too difficult to do, I seriously doubt it. :misc4: :unamused:

Yeah, it's not even that. It's like... yeah, that sucks and I'm mad about it, but even if you accept the premise that some people are going to get special colorations as a Thing, and then you go to the product page, and see even toys on their own product pages with colors that are suddenly too difficult to do. ?????? So like, what does that tell you about exactly how much of a shit BD gives about paying consumers? God.

ESPECIALLY when those paying consumers have often asked for a color, said they'll take whatever is poured first, and are STILL told no. Like that one person who wanted split lips on their Natascha, was told no EVEN if they took the first pour, and then like two weeks later a bunch of split lip Nataschas showed up?

And yeah, I really don't think BD is moving to hand painted models since fades and highlights and split lips and anything that has even a slight chance of failing is suddenly too difficult and has been for approaching a year now.

I haven't been here that long and I knew about a lot of this drama before I started purchasing and decided to buy anyway, but being more involved with the forums and stuff, it's really making me consider being done supporting BD directly.
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Re: Bad Dragon Banter

Postby Feliciaty » Sun Oct 02, 2016 6:09 pm

I might've not been here for a long time but I agree, you shouldn't spoil a minority and then snub the majority. ESPECIALLY those who dropped hundreds upon hundreds of dollars into their products. It simply tells that majority that they aren't worth it enough to offer elaborate toys for a bit more of a price. :eyeroll:

I love BD and their toys. I can understand where that won't be good business wise but meh. :unamused: I might just be a bit salty today.
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Re: Bad Dragon Banter

Postby Amaranthe » Sun Oct 02, 2016 6:17 pm

Idra wrote:Ha ha. Ha. Hahahahahaa. [continued bitter laughter]

And I can't even get a custom highlight color because BD doesn't want to be bothered? :mystery:


Amaranthe wrote:I understand why they don't offer things like this for the general customer because I imagine with the volume of orders they get, and how popular it would be, it might not be realistic. HOWEVER, showing that they CAN do these things and giving them away to "special customers" really hurts customer relations. I'm irrationally angry about the patterning on that Crackers. I just... who even are those people? Why are they special? What is so great about them that they can get BD to do "impossible" colorations?? Is it because they are recognizable in some community, so their endorsement would be valuable? But how disappointed are the new customers who might find BD through them going to be when they find out that the good pours are only for the "special" people? Part of me wants to hope that hand painted details might be an offering in the future with the "big changes", but seeing as how fades are suddenly too difficult to do, I seriously doubt it. :misc4: :unamused:

Yeah, it's not even that. It's like... yeah, that sucks and I'm mad about it, but even if you accept the premise that some people are going to get special colorations as a Thing, and then you go to the product page, and see even toys on their own product pages with colors that are suddenly too difficult to do. ?????? So like, what does that tell you about exactly how much of a shit BD gives about paying consumers? God.

ESPECIALLY when those paying consumers have often asked for a color, said they'll take whatever is poured first, and are STILL told no. Like that one person who wanted split lips on their Natascha, was told no EVEN if they took the first pour, and then like two weeks later a bunch of split lip Nataschas showed up?

And yeah, I really don't think BD is moving to hand painted models since fades and highlights and split lips and anything that has even a slight chance of failing is suddenly too difficult and has been for approaching a year now.

I haven't been here that long and I knew about a lot of this drama before I started purchasing and decided to buy anyway, but being more involved with the forums and stuff, it's really making me consider being done supporting BD directly.

I can't tell if you're agreeing with me or not, but we are saying the same things. It just sucks and doesn't make much sense. It really feels like false advertising to me, since they haven't changed the product pictures for the models with colorations they won't do anymore. :misc5:
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Re: Bad Dragon Banter

Postby Idra » Sun Oct 02, 2016 6:19 pm

Fruityrumpusasshole wrote:I'm suddenly super upset with the customs I basically had to "settle with" now.

Yeah. They can't even pour a solid color tongue in the right damn firmness but they can make that Crackers?

IMO too many people have been told "you're SOL" on awful customs for them to be pulling shit like this now.

Amaranthe wrote:I can't tell if you're agreeing with me or not, but we are saying the same things. It just sucks and doesn't make much sense. It really feels like false advertising to me, since they haven't changed the product pictures for the models with colorations they won't do anymore. :misc5:

No, I'm definitely agreeing with you. I also think it's false advertising -- on a kind of insidious, gross level with shit like that Crackers and that Nova and the Tyson EvL was told could be custom ordered, but on a very blatant level with their own product pictures on their own website. Sighs 5ever.
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Re: Bad Dragon Banter

Postby Amaranthe » Sun Oct 02, 2016 6:22 pm

Idra wrote:
Fruityrumpusasshole wrote:I'm suddenly super upset with the customs I basically had to "settle with" now.

Yeah. They can't even pour a solid color tongue in the right damn firmness but they can make that Crackers?

IMO too many people have been told "you're SOL" on awful customs for them to be pulling shit like this now.

Amaranthe wrote:I can't tell if you're agreeing with me or not, but we are saying the same things. It just sucks and doesn't make much sense. It really feels like false advertising to me, since they haven't changed the product pictures for the models with colorations they won't do anymore. :misc5:

No, I'm definitely agreeing with you. I also think it's false advertising -- on a kind of insidious, gross level with shit like that Crackers and that Nova and the Tyson EvL was told could be custom ordered, but on a very blatant level with their own product pictures on their own website. Sighs 5ever.

Okay. Sorry, I am super tired and super salty right now. I'm just thinking of all the customs gone awry, and now this. Just...ugh. Sighs 5ever, indeed. Can we get a salt shaker emoji thing for the forums cause we need one. :misc6:
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Re: Bad Dragon Banter

Postby Idra » Sun Oct 02, 2016 6:24 pm

Amaranthe wrote:Okay. Sorry, I am super tired and super salty right now. I'm just thinking of all the customs gone awry, and now this. Just...ugh. Sighs 5ever, indeed. Can we get a salt shaker emoji thing for the forums cause we need one. :misc6:

No problem! And yeah, I've taken to just writing :salt shaker emoji: because I need one. Sometimes small salt shakers (like Opal not being released even though it's October) and sometimes really fucking huge salt shakers (like this one).
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Re: Bad Dragon Banter

Postby Moonmeat » Sun Oct 02, 2016 6:27 pm

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I just wish Bad Dragon would update what they can and can't do; because it's really disheartening to see them giving this stuff away. :B I've always envied them for their quality but they have been slipping lately.

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