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total ripoff of zootopia, really?

Postby scaledragon » Mon Mar 14, 2016 4:54 pm

so just recently came back to bd and now i see all this zootopia related stuff and it looks like a complete and total ripoff of the movie, the badges/pins mostly. come on BD couldnt have thought of something more original?
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Re: total ripoff of zootopia, really?

Postby Rainbow Dasher » Mon Mar 14, 2016 4:58 pm

They did it because they knew it would sell, and it definitely has. This movie was already extremely sexualized within the furry fandom, long before BD did anything with it. At the end of the day, it's all about business and what they know is going to rake in the cash. I'm not saying it's necessarily "right", but it is what it is.
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Re: total ripoff of zootopia, really?

Postby WolfieCub » Mon Mar 14, 2016 5:03 pm

Named a business industry that doesn't do something exactly or damn close to the same tatic, it's how business works right, wrong or indifferent it is what it is period nothing is going to change the fact that money in king and will do X to get it.
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Re: total ripoff of zootopia, really?

Postby Arumaeruma » Mon Mar 14, 2016 5:09 pm

I've been trying to think about why this promotion in particular has seemed to rile people up, since the other ones didn't do much. I think people are just exhausted with BD coming out with stuff so closely related to other media. With the Jurassic world promo, the toys that came out of it were phenomenal and well crafted. There was a lot of effort put into it. I read that they put about a year's worth of prep for it and it showed, and it did really well. Then after that they decided to do the MLP one... which I felt was unnecessary and certainly stirred up drama, but sold well. Then they did the Fallout promotion... which was okay. I liked the bottlecaps, but the toys themselves didn't do much for me. I've purchased almost all the dino toys, but none of the fallout ones appealed to me in anyway. And now they do the zootopia one, which I think has the most boring toys out of them all.

I've thought about why this one has irritated people as much as I've seen. I think some are irritated because it's sexualizing a children cartoon, but like Dasher said it was already heavily sexualized and it's not like BD hasn't done this before with Nox and the MLP toys. I think the zootopia promo wouldn't have been as irritating (to me) if there wasn't as much side merch. If they had released the toys and been done with it that would have been okay. But they're releasing pins, shirts, etc that have characters that look way too close to comfort as the actual characters and profiting off of an idea that's not theirs. To me, the whole promotion seemed rush in terms of the quality of the toys and way too cash grabby for comfort. After seeing the movie myself (and enjoying it as much as I did) it off put me even more from the entire promotion. But I think that mostly has to do with me not liking the sexualization of children content. I just don't like lazy looking toys inspired from other content.

I know I've said it before in another thread, but I'd rather see Bad Dragon produce original content. People mentioned how technically this is original content and I just don't see it. I don't focus much on the characters myself since each of my toy I make my own fantasy to, but something just feels really wrong about profiting from someone else idea under a "parody"
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Re: total ripoff of zootopia, really?

Postby Kith » Mon Mar 14, 2016 5:18 pm

Arumaeruma wrote:But I think that mostly has to do with me not liking the sexualization of children content.


The shorts the tiger dancers wear certainly don't help in that regard. I haven't been able to see the movie myself, but all the adults I've seen review it have said that it's a movie that, while accessible to children, is really for adults. So I have trouble seeing it as "children's content" myself. :psyduck:
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Re: total ripoff of zootopia, really?

Postby Arumaeruma » Mon Mar 14, 2016 5:22 pm

Kith wrote:
Arumaeruma wrote:But I think that mostly has to do with me not liking the sexualization of children content.


The shorts the tiger dancers wear certainly doesn't help in that regard. I haven't been able to see the movie myself, but all the adults I've seen review it have said that it's a movie that, while accessible to children, is really for adults. :psyduck:


That part was only during the credits. I saw the movie and it was really good, I think it's for adults a bit more with the themes that are presented through it rather than any sexual content. I didn't really think any of the characters themselves came off as sexualized with how they looked or acted, or maybe I just looked at it differently because I'm not a furry. Who knows! I just didn't get that myself when I watched the movie.
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Re: total ripoff of zootopia, really?

Postby Fableheart » Mon Mar 14, 2016 5:23 pm

I wasn't 100% happy with the promo because I'd honestly rather have original toys than ones based off of fandoms. If you look more towards the bottom of the dildo page, it's mostly original characters, but as you get closer to the top, it's ones based off of shows or movies.

I also haven't really been a huge fan of any of the toys released lately; I think Bumble was the last one that looked interesting to me. I was hoping for something different and unique this time but I think Austin and the bunny look really boring. :psyduck:
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Re: total ripoff of zootopia, really?

Postby Kith » Mon Mar 14, 2016 5:27 pm

Yeah, even when the characters aren't presented in a sexual fashion, they'll get sexualized regardless. Before the movie was even announced, much less the plot and rating known, there was porn of Nick via leaked concept art. Now? The "we're loud" gazelle have had that statement interpreted in a sexual fashion, the "howl" wolves are depicted as a couple, and so on and so forth. :doh:

Edit: I don't mind inspired-by toys as such, it'd just be nice to intersperse those with other things, like lab contests, original concepts, redesigns, etc.
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Re: total ripoff of zootopia, really?

Postby kt~ » Mon Mar 14, 2016 5:45 pm

Arumaeruma wrote:I've been trying to think about why this promotion in particular has seemed to rile people up, since the other ones didn't do much. I think people are just exhausted with BD coming out with stuff so closely related to other media. With the Jurassic world promo, the toys that came out of it were phenomenal and well crafted. There was a lot of effort put into it. I read that they put about a year's worth of prep for it and it showed, and it did really well. Then after that they decided to do the MLP one... which I felt was unnecessary and certainly stirred up drama, but sold well. Then they did the Fallout promotion... which was okay. I liked the bottlecaps, but the toys themselves didn't do much for me. I've purchased almost all the dino toys, but none of the fallout ones appealed to me in anyway. And now they do the zootopia one, which I think has the most boring toys out of them all.

I actually think the MLP one stirred up more drama than this :eyeroll: I remember the arguments that ensued over it and at least one person left the forum and sold all their BD toys over it.
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Re: total ripoff of zootopia, really?

Postby Samson » Mon Mar 14, 2016 6:05 pm

I loved the Jurassic World promo because I felt like BD put so much work into, especially with the ARG. (proof with my well loved Dragon Island shirt). Or maybe it is because I just like dinosaurs so much While I have enjoyed some of the other promos, I don't feel they are as unique or well thought out as they were before. But I also understand BD is a business and is looking to make money off of what is popular.
I kinda wonder how some of these promos based toys will do after the hype for it is over. Some of them seem like toys that could last a while in the lineup, but some just feel a bit similar to things we already have.
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Re: total ripoff of zootopia, really?

Postby HungryStray » Mon Mar 14, 2016 6:16 pm

Kith wrote:Edit: I don't mind inspired-by toys as such, it'd just be nice to intersperse those with other things, like lab contests, original concepts, redesigns, etc.

I don't either, mostly because I don't wind up being involved in whatever the theme is based off of. But even if it was something that I was truly passionate about, I think I'd be more pleased than anything that I can extend one fandom into another. I love crossovers. ^.^

But I completely agree with mixing it in with lab contests and original designs, the first because it's community driven, and the second because original designs would be more surprising. ^-^ I love surprises.
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Re: total ripoff of zootopia, really?

Postby Dragoncatclem » Mon Mar 14, 2016 6:22 pm

100% agree with Arumaeruma
Though we do need another lab contest :sniffing:
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Re: total ripoff of zootopia, really?

Postby reine » Mon Mar 14, 2016 6:28 pm

I don't really care about the Zootopia ripoff itself (though I am mildly concerned for BD's safety); I'm more bothered by how bland and uninspired the models are. They're so plain and plasticy-looking-- even Rex, Chance, and the Anthro Shark, three models that are also smooth, look much less rubbery and cheap than the Neon Savannah ones.

The Jurassic Park promo models looked great and matched BD's quality level, and then... They must've gotten a new 3D modeller or something, because the texture and sculpting of everything that came after the Mountain Drake looks so rushed. :psyduck: Even Kage's textures aren't as pronounced as they were in the Labs; Chibity's sculpt looks way better than the final product.

Echo's sculpt is... decent, but the Fallout, MLP, and Zootopia models look like they were cranked out ASAP to make cash.
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Re: total ripoff of zootopia, really?

Postby AltheaThune » Mon Mar 14, 2016 7:03 pm

Arumaeruma wrote:...it was already heavily sexualized and it's not like BD hasn't done this before with Nox and the MLP toys....


I didn't know Nox was a tie-in to a movie/show/game/franchise. What is it supposed to be related to?
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Re: total ripoff of zootopia, really?

Postby kt~ » Mon Mar 14, 2016 7:04 pm

AltheaThune wrote:
Arumaeruma wrote:...it was already heavily sexualized and it's not like BD hasn't done this before with Nox and the MLP toys....


I didn't know Nox was a tie-in to a movie/show/game/franchise. What is it supposed to be related to?

It's Toothless from How to Train Your Dragon. I believe the toy was lab designed, so designed by a customer, not BD.
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Postby AltheaThune » Mon Mar 14, 2016 7:16 pm

Thanks! I haven't seen HTTYD and I guess I should get caught up.
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Re: total ripoff of zootopia, really?

Postby Wistala » Mon Mar 14, 2016 7:17 pm

I like the Buffalo toy, but not really the other two.
However, I love, LOVE, LOVE!!!!! that they've got parody Zootopia shirts and pins. I love being a troll when it's harmless, and wearing BD Zootopia shit, and having BD Zootopia pins, is amazing! I can walk around with sex toy related stuff masquerading as Disney stuff. It's awesome!
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Re: total ripoff of zootopia, really?

Postby HungryStray » Mon Mar 14, 2016 7:35 pm

I can't say I much mind the merch either personally, have yet to get anything themed for myself yet but I'm sure the time will come. That's not to say that I don't own some of the more permanent merch, I'm currently sipping coffee from my BD mug, and I do have a Meng keychain, and because bottlecaps were included on anything purchased I have a small handful of those as well. Though I have yet to buy one, I think the shirts are a snazzy idea, as those are limited time, and a good way to celebrate the fun had through such and such promotion (if I would have been smart I'd have gotten a bunker 69 t-shirt, as I really enjoyed the Fallout promotion). I'm already excited for the next big thing, in fact, I'ma go start a thread about some things, maybe get some ideas rolling.
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Re: total ripoff of zootopia, really?

Postby rider1754 » Mon Mar 14, 2016 8:16 pm

WolfieCub wrote:Named a business industry that doesn't do something exactly or damn close to the same tatic, it's how business works right, wrong or indifferent it is what it is period nothing is going to change the fact that money in king and will do X to get it.


I agree with your statement as we need to see BD as a business too. Its a supply and demand type of thing, if they believe and/or know there is going to be a demand. Then BD as the supplier us merely meeting its demand. Because say if they didn't release the Neon Savannah promo. There maybe some people wanting this promo since BD is a adult fantasy toy company. And this is what BD is known for doing (animal, alien, etc...) toys and products. Sure their are going to be people that either love and/or hate it, but at the end of the day. We again need to see BD as a business. Or we could see it as a risk/gain. How much of a gain would they get if they risk doing this promo. Although I will say I am interested in some of the stuff in the promo, but that's not the point.

Would be nice if Varka or someone from the company to chime in (especially from the marketing department) on this issue.

Feel free to correct me if you want, but I'm just giving my two cents on the issue. And I will end with that I exercise rule 34 of the Internet. (Just for laughs)
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Re: total ripoff of zootopia, really?

Postby Zacharie » Mon Mar 14, 2016 8:26 pm

OK but the real reason why this is all ridiculous is because BD makes dildoes based off of franchises, such as Fallout, Star wars, Zootopia, HTTYD and more, but when something like THIS happens, they file a cease and desist.

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im just....done at this point lmao

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