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Re: The forums feel dead

Postby Lipton » Sun May 08, 2016 11:19 am

Shadow hound wrote:I also think it's really tiring to look at the same dance every time a company releases a new model. It's always the "OMFG IT'S A RIPOFF OF KLJDSOAUIWELKJADKASJOPIW*smashes keyboard with angry judgemental hands* OMG CALL THE POLICE!!" when it's like...penis-shaped, like many toys are. There's only so many shapes you can make a dick. Even if it's long, curved, slim, it doesn't mean it's the same design as all other long curved and slim dicks. If you go to sex store and look at the selection of dildos there you'll notice they all look very similar cause penis.

Like spinosaurus and Nox, yeah no. They are not even close to being the same. If you think they look identical, you don't have very good eyes for spotting a difference, you might not know that, but it's true. Some people are better at noticing differences than other people and it's not meant as an insult but just a fact.

We as PRO-dildo users should be able to understand that even a tiny variation in the curve or the details or thickness can cause a massively different feeling. Just calm down.


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Re: The forums feel dead

Postby Samson » Sun May 08, 2016 1:02 pm

I think the reason some people pointed out Nox vs Spinosaurus was moe out of parody. Or maybe that was jut the vibe I got??? Anytime BD releases a design/new feature/merch that was anything like what someone else had, someone would loose their cookies. Anybody remember the event where Crash's shiloute looked too much like a dino FB wasgoing to release? But anytime someone made something like BD's it would be brushed off before. Or at least that was my observation.
Personally I think a lot of people take it too far. Similarities are going to happen.if you scream "copy!" over every little thing, people may not take you seriously when something truly fishy starts happening.
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Re: The forums feel dead

Postby Dragoncatclem » Sun May 08, 2016 1:03 pm

AkaiKitsune wrote:I mean, hell, one of the stupidest outbursts I remember was the release of Snowball, when people started saying that BD made a toy based on a juvenile reindeer because it had white spots or some stupid shit which was later disproven. People even left because of it and the shit spread all over Tumblr too. I mean, goddamn, furries tend to get riled up over nothing so it's no surprise that a market/community of them is difficult to placate.

That actually happend? Haha! I wasn't around then. That's hilarious. That's so amusing, throwing a storm over spots. Even if the character was "juvenile" it's not like the toy is a minor. It's a silicone toy :P Thas like saying using the dog toys is beastiality.
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Re: The forums feel dead

Postby karla-chan » Sun May 08, 2016 2:25 pm

Dragoncatclem wrote:
AkaiKitsune wrote:I mean, hell, one of the stupidest outbursts I remember was the release of Snowball, when people started saying that BD made a toy based on a juvenile reindeer because it had white spots or some stupid shit which was later disproven. People even left because of it and the shit spread all over Tumblr too. I mean, goddamn, furries tend to get riled up over nothing so it's no surprise that a market/community of them is difficult to placate.

That actually happend? Haha! I wasn't around then. That's hilarious. That's so amusing, throwing a storm over spots. Even if the character was "juvenile" it's not like the toy is a minor. It's a silicone toy :P Thas like saying using the dog toys is beastiality.


Actually if it is a juvenile character it is wrong. I know it's just a toy, but what we glorify can cause other issue and make some people think it's okay. You really would be surprised what can have an impact on people.

Like if it's an adult, and they can have spots fair enough. Joke or not this kind of stuff about juveniles is never okay.

I will admit people do kick off too easily, which is a problem when people are being genuine about pointing out their concerns. Which is a problem with places like Tumblr.
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Re: The forums feel dead

Postby Vitani » Sun May 08, 2016 2:38 pm

karla-chan wrote:I know it's just a toy, but what we glorify can cause other issue and make some people think it's okay..


Like...bestiality? Because that's honestly people's number one concern when they see/find out about my collection. :eyeroll:
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Re: The forums feel dead

Postby thesharkwhisperer » Sun May 08, 2016 2:49 pm

Samson wrote:I think the reason some people pointed out Nox vs Spinosaurus was moe out of parody. Or maybe that was jut the vibe I got??? Anytime BD releases a design/new feature/merch that was anything like what someone else had, someone would loose their cookies. Anybody remember the event where Crash's shiloute looked too much like a dino FB wasgoing to release? But anytime someone made something like BD's it would be brushed off before. Or at least that was my observation.
Personally I think a lot of people take it too far. Similarities are going to happen.if you scream "copy!" over every little thing, people may not take you seriously when something truly fishy starts happening.

For those people, the entire Jurassic World promotion was nothing but an obvious attempt at crushing the competition aka FB. I even saw anons send supportive message to FB because "BD ripped off your logo" talking about the jurassic park style logo BD had during the promotion.
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Re: The forums feel dead

Postby Vulpine Aurora » Sun May 08, 2016 2:50 pm

Vitani wrote:
karla-chan wrote:I know it's just a toy, but what we glorify can cause other issue and make some people think it's okay..


Like...bestiality? Because that's honestly people's number one concern when they see/find out about my collection. :eyeroll:


I haven't read this whole thread because it was making me sad (despite noticing the state of the forums I prefer to pretend it's alright as usual, but I also haven't suffered the drama at all), but I particularly wanted to wonder out loud in response to the "bestiality concerns" some people may have. Specifically, how valid would someone view the argument of "If that interest was my reason to buy these toys, isn't it far better that I use inanimate toys instead of living creatures for my fantasies?"

Knowing how dense and closed minded people often are about such things, I'm sure they'd come up with some absurd response, but it's a new thought for me that just further validates the awesomeness of such toys. :smilenox:

Edit: Also doubtful, but I wonder if it would make more sense to them that a toy user may apply it to an anthropomorphic creature, not a real animal. Probably not considering the misconceptions surrounding that whole deal, but...more thoughts.
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Re: The forums feel dead

Postby Vitani » Sun May 08, 2016 2:53 pm

I always think it's ridiculous too....I'm not really sure how people draw that connection? I don't even have any of the equine, or realistic dog dicks. (closest I have would be Cole, but that hardly looks like a real dog dick...it's deff super anthro-ized)

I mean I AM a furry, so I think anthros are attractive :smile:
but in no way do I think -animals- are. :eyeroll:
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Re: The forums feel dead

Postby Vulpine Aurora » Sun May 08, 2016 3:00 pm

Vitani wrote:I always think it's ridiculous too....I'm not really sure how people draw that connection? I don't even have any of the equine, or realistic dog dicks. (closest I have would be Cole, but that hardly looks like a real dog dick...it's deff super anthro-ized)

I mean I AM a furry, so I think anthros are attractive :smile:
but in no way do I think -animals- are. :eyeroll:

I think that two years ago before I had discovered Bad Dragon, I wasn't sure where I stood on whether or not I felt like I had zoophilic interests. I quickly realized that it was just that the more exotic genitalia were fascinating, but I had zero interest in animals beyond pets. I think that's a very important distinction, and one I can branch off of in a way. I know I love dicks, and even human ones are fine with me, but I'm not entirely convinced I'm sexually interested in males as a whole person. I could be wrong about that, but it's the same idea, except I'm positively negative on the animal front. That makes sense right? :stick:
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Re: The forums feel dead

Postby Rainbow Dasher » Sun May 08, 2016 3:34 pm

Vitani wrote:
karla-chan wrote:I know it's just a toy, but what we glorify can cause other issue and make some people think it's okay..


Like...bestiality? Because that's honestly people's number one concern when they see/find out about my collection. :eyeroll:


Same. I know a handful of members have received PM's to that effect, asking us if we're "really into it, because we seem like we are", and then asking us if they can share their experiences with it.
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Re: The forums feel dead

Postby Dragoncatclem » Sun May 08, 2016 4:11 pm

Rainbow Dasher wrote:
Vitani wrote:
karla-chan wrote:I know it's just a toy, but what we glorify can cause other issue and make some people think it's okay..


Like...bestiality? Because that's honestly people's number one concern when they see/find out about my collection. :eyeroll:


Same. I know a handful of members have received PM's to that effect, asking us if we're "really into it, because we seem like we are", and then asking us if they can share their experiences with it.

Ew omfg wow :laugh:
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Re: The forums feel dead

Postby Dragoncatclem » Sun May 08, 2016 4:31 pm

Fruityrumpusasshole wrote:
Vitani wrote:
karla-chan wrote:I know it's just a toy, but what we glorify can cause other issue and make some people think it's okay..


Like...bestiality? Because that's honestly people's number one concern when they see/find out about my collection. :eyeroll:


I still don't understand how having a fictional fantasy in your head is somehow "glorifying" anything.
It makes me think of all the nutcase christian moms who think videogames like GTA glorify killing and prostitution.
It doesn't.

If someone thinks someones fantasy and starts thinking it's ok in the real world, THEY have the problem, not the people minding their own buisness and partaking in their own thing.

I'm not going to step on eggshells in order to take care of complete strangers's fee-fees. If they are the ones who think drawing loli, or owning realistic animal dildos somehow makes the real life equivalent ok, that's THEIR problem.

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Re: The forums feel dead

Postby Fae Fantase » Sun May 08, 2016 4:31 pm

I feel as if people were interested in the real thing some fantasy toys are based in they'd simply go for it. No messing with mere toys. Tis not as if these domestic species are rare or difficult to obtain or gain access to. You can admire a design for how it feels and not like the far less glamorous or moral real thing. I used to be opposed to knotted toys. Til I realized well they aren't life cast plus they work so well for G-spot stim.

I draw the line at porn of minors of any sort. Yes I'm biased. I've seen the lives if such innocent sweet children ruined over people who decided fantasy wasn't doing it any longer. It tore my heart to pieces. I can't stomach the thought of it. Sorry not even as fantasy. That's my stance and it can't be changed.
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Re: The forums feel dead

Postby AriesCat » Sun May 08, 2016 4:51 pm

lovelyscales wrote:
I draw the line at porn of minors of any sort. Yes I'm biased. I've seen the lives if such innocent sweet children ruined over people who decided fantasy wasn't doing it any longer. It tore my heart to pieces. I can't stomach the thought of it. Sorry not even as fantasy. That's my stance and it can't be changed.


Just as long as you don't harass people over it. It's really really gaslighty when people start trying to 'explain' to me that an adult getting a silicon dildo with the same coloration as a pixel video game flower that might be underage somehow is exactly the same as what I went through as a child. No, no it was not. You don't have to be comfortable with it yourself, but please don't think you're somehow helping people like me if you bully others over it.
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Re: The forums feel dead

Postby Screamy » Sun May 08, 2016 5:04 pm

Already someone has "warned' Akifu that their latest creation is the "spitting image' of BDs Guardian

http://akifutoys.tumblr.com/post/144051 ... at-all-but

Is this the community? Why is this such a rampantly common trope? Accusing creators offhandedly that they stole a design?
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Re: The forums feel dead

Postby Screamy » Sun May 08, 2016 5:11 pm

Fruityrumpusasshole wrote:
Screamy wrote:Already someone has "warned' Akifu that their latest creation is the "spitting image' of BDs Guardian

http://akifutoys.tumblr.com/post/144051 ... at-all-but

Is this the community? Why is this such a rampantly common trope? Accusing creators offhandedly that they stole a design?


Can confirm. Been on the pointy end of a pitchfork over the same garbage. These people are rabid and everything is a copy of everything at this point. It's gotten to the point that legit concern is swept up under the rug or drowned by this type of stuff.

Though I haven't seen their new toy, so I can't say one way or the other on it's "copying"

This is the new toy
http://akifutoys.tumblr.com/post/144045 ... fascinated

People seem to take vague similarities such as "has a bulge" "has ridges" and "Has pointy tip" to mean "OMG THIS IS A COPY!!!"

I've seen this witch hunt before and it's always the same crap. Vague design similarities = copied :eyeroll:
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Re: The forums feel dead

Postby Vulpine Aurora » Sun May 08, 2016 5:14 pm

Screamy wrote:Already someone has "warned' Akifu that their latest creation is the "spitting image' of BDs Guardian

http://akifutoys.tumblr.com/post/144051 ... at-all-but

Is this the community? Why is this such a rampantly common trope? Accusing creators offhandedly that they stole a design?

I guess no fandom, no matter how lighthearted it should be viewed as, can escape that sort of thing? I definitely see some similarities, but they're well beyond far enough apart that I see no reason to care. As has been said, phallic objects all have to follow a somewhat similar schema, and there are only so many appropriate ways to customize them. I think Akifu's toy looks pretty damn cool. The style of ridges is actually pretty unique, and the coloration is beautiful. Good for Akifu.
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Re: The forums feel dead

Postby AriesCat » Sun May 08, 2016 5:16 pm

Screamy wrote:Already someone has "warned' Akifu that their latest creation is the "spitting image' of BDs Guardian

http://akifutoys.tumblr.com/post/144051 ... at-all-but

Is this the community? Why is this such a rampantly common trope? Accusing creators offhandedly that they stole a design?


If it helps at all, I was in the Ball Joint Doll fandom a long while ago and every time a new doll came out there were choruses of "It's a recast!" "It's a copy!" "They just sculpted a little onto another piece and recast it!" with close up pictures of things like elbows or shoulderblades. Because there's so many different ways to sculpt a freakin' elbow.
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Re: The forums feel dead

Postby SquishyLaughter » Sun May 08, 2016 5:17 pm

Okay, the Guardian looks NOTHING like the Draegen. It would be like saying it was a copy of Flint. Flint has super pronounced ridges like the Draegen...

Just WTF
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Re: The forums feel dead

Postby Casma » Sun May 08, 2016 5:50 pm

I think it does look similar but like....who even cares? convergent evolution happens in nature, no reason it wouldn't happen in dildos too :widesmile:

i don't even get why people do that?? Like, if BD has a problem with it I'm more than certain they have the muscle to deal with it themselves. They don't need a bunch of tumblr weirdos enforcing their copyrights wtf

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