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Re: The forums feel dead

Postby Vitani » Sun May 08, 2016 2:53 pm

I always think it's ridiculous too....I'm not really sure how people draw that connection? I don't even have any of the equine, or realistic dog dicks. (closest I have would be Cole, but that hardly looks like a real dog dick...it's deff super anthro-ized)

I mean I AM a furry, so I think anthros are attractive :smile:
but in no way do I think -animals- are. :eyeroll:
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Re: The forums feel dead

Postby Vulpine Aurora » Sun May 08, 2016 3:00 pm

Vitani wrote:I always think it's ridiculous too....I'm not really sure how people draw that connection? I don't even have any of the equine, or realistic dog dicks. (closest I have would be Cole, but that hardly looks like a real dog dick...it's deff super anthro-ized)

I mean I AM a furry, so I think anthros are attractive :smile:
but in no way do I think -animals- are. :eyeroll:

I think that two years ago before I had discovered Bad Dragon, I wasn't sure where I stood on whether or not I felt like I had zoophilic interests. I quickly realized that it was just that the more exotic genitalia were fascinating, but I had zero interest in animals beyond pets. I think that's a very important distinction, and one I can branch off of in a way. I know I love dicks, and even human ones are fine with me, but I'm not entirely convinced I'm sexually interested in males as a whole person. I could be wrong about that, but it's the same idea, except I'm positively negative on the animal front. That makes sense right? :stick:
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Re: The forums feel dead

Postby Rainbow Dasher » Sun May 08, 2016 3:34 pm

Vitani wrote:
karla-chan wrote:I know it's just a toy, but what we glorify can cause other issue and make some people think it's okay..


Like...bestiality? Because that's honestly people's number one concern when they see/find out about my collection. :eyeroll:


Same. I know a handful of members have received PM's to that effect, asking us if we're "really into it, because we seem like we are", and then asking us if they can share their experiences with it.
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Re: The forums feel dead

Postby Dragoncatclem » Sun May 08, 2016 4:11 pm

Rainbow Dasher wrote:
Vitani wrote:
karla-chan wrote:I know it's just a toy, but what we glorify can cause other issue and make some people think it's okay..


Like...bestiality? Because that's honestly people's number one concern when they see/find out about my collection. :eyeroll:


Same. I know a handful of members have received PM's to that effect, asking us if we're "really into it, because we seem like we are", and then asking us if they can share their experiences with it.

Ew omfg wow :laugh:
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Re: The forums feel dead

Postby Dragoncatclem » Sun May 08, 2016 4:31 pm

Fruityrumpusasshole wrote:
Vitani wrote:
karla-chan wrote:I know it's just a toy, but what we glorify can cause other issue and make some people think it's okay..


Like...bestiality? Because that's honestly people's number one concern when they see/find out about my collection. :eyeroll:


I still don't understand how having a fictional fantasy in your head is somehow "glorifying" anything.
It makes me think of all the nutcase christian moms who think videogames like GTA glorify killing and prostitution.
It doesn't.

If someone thinks someones fantasy and starts thinking it's ok in the real world, THEY have the problem, not the people minding their own buisness and partaking in their own thing.

I'm not going to step on eggshells in order to take care of complete strangers's fee-fees. If they are the ones who think drawing loli, or owning realistic animal dildos somehow makes the real life equivalent ok, that's THEIR problem.

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Re: The forums feel dead

Postby Fae Fantase » Sun May 08, 2016 4:31 pm

I feel as if people were interested in the real thing some fantasy toys are based in they'd simply go for it. No messing with mere toys. Tis not as if these domestic species are rare or difficult to obtain or gain access to. You can admire a design for how it feels and not like the far less glamorous or moral real thing. I used to be opposed to knotted toys. Til I realized well they aren't life cast plus they work so well for G-spot stim.

I draw the line at porn of minors of any sort. Yes I'm biased. I've seen the lives if such innocent sweet children ruined over people who decided fantasy wasn't doing it any longer. It tore my heart to pieces. I can't stomach the thought of it. Sorry not even as fantasy. That's my stance and it can't be changed.
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Re: The forums feel dead

Postby AriesCat » Sun May 08, 2016 4:51 pm

lovelyscales wrote:
I draw the line at porn of minors of any sort. Yes I'm biased. I've seen the lives if such innocent sweet children ruined over people who decided fantasy wasn't doing it any longer. It tore my heart to pieces. I can't stomach the thought of it. Sorry not even as fantasy. That's my stance and it can't be changed.


Just as long as you don't harass people over it. It's really really gaslighty when people start trying to 'explain' to me that an adult getting a silicon dildo with the same coloration as a pixel video game flower that might be underage somehow is exactly the same as what I went through as a child. No, no it was not. You don't have to be comfortable with it yourself, but please don't think you're somehow helping people like me if you bully others over it.
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Re: The forums feel dead

Postby Screamy » Sun May 08, 2016 5:04 pm

Already someone has "warned' Akifu that their latest creation is the "spitting image' of BDs Guardian

http://akifutoys.tumblr.com/post/144051 ... at-all-but

Is this the community? Why is this such a rampantly common trope? Accusing creators offhandedly that they stole a design?
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Re: The forums feel dead

Postby Screamy » Sun May 08, 2016 5:11 pm

Fruityrumpusasshole wrote:
Screamy wrote:Already someone has "warned' Akifu that their latest creation is the "spitting image' of BDs Guardian

http://akifutoys.tumblr.com/post/144051 ... at-all-but

Is this the community? Why is this such a rampantly common trope? Accusing creators offhandedly that they stole a design?


Can confirm. Been on the pointy end of a pitchfork over the same garbage. These people are rabid and everything is a copy of everything at this point. It's gotten to the point that legit concern is swept up under the rug or drowned by this type of stuff.

Though I haven't seen their new toy, so I can't say one way or the other on it's "copying"

This is the new toy
http://akifutoys.tumblr.com/post/144045 ... fascinated

People seem to take vague similarities such as "has a bulge" "has ridges" and "Has pointy tip" to mean "OMG THIS IS A COPY!!!"

I've seen this witch hunt before and it's always the same crap. Vague design similarities = copied :eyeroll:
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Re: The forums feel dead

Postby Vulpine Aurora » Sun May 08, 2016 5:14 pm

Screamy wrote:Already someone has "warned' Akifu that their latest creation is the "spitting image' of BDs Guardian

http://akifutoys.tumblr.com/post/144051 ... at-all-but

Is this the community? Why is this such a rampantly common trope? Accusing creators offhandedly that they stole a design?

I guess no fandom, no matter how lighthearted it should be viewed as, can escape that sort of thing? I definitely see some similarities, but they're well beyond far enough apart that I see no reason to care. As has been said, phallic objects all have to follow a somewhat similar schema, and there are only so many appropriate ways to customize them. I think Akifu's toy looks pretty damn cool. The style of ridges is actually pretty unique, and the coloration is beautiful. Good for Akifu.
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Re: The forums feel dead

Postby AriesCat » Sun May 08, 2016 5:16 pm

Screamy wrote:Already someone has "warned' Akifu that their latest creation is the "spitting image' of BDs Guardian

http://akifutoys.tumblr.com/post/144051 ... at-all-but

Is this the community? Why is this such a rampantly common trope? Accusing creators offhandedly that they stole a design?


If it helps at all, I was in the Ball Joint Doll fandom a long while ago and every time a new doll came out there were choruses of "It's a recast!" "It's a copy!" "They just sculpted a little onto another piece and recast it!" with close up pictures of things like elbows or shoulderblades. Because there's so many different ways to sculpt a freakin' elbow.
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Re: The forums feel dead

Postby SquishyLaughter » Sun May 08, 2016 5:17 pm

Okay, the Guardian looks NOTHING like the Draegen. It would be like saying it was a copy of Flint. Flint has super pronounced ridges like the Draegen...

Just WTF
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Re: The forums feel dead

Postby Casma » Sun May 08, 2016 5:50 pm

I think it does look similar but like....who even cares? convergent evolution happens in nature, no reason it wouldn't happen in dildos too :widesmile:

i don't even get why people do that?? Like, if BD has a problem with it I'm more than certain they have the muscle to deal with it themselves. They don't need a bunch of tumblr weirdos enforcing their copyrights wtf
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Re: The forums feel dead

Postby Fae Fantase » Sun May 08, 2016 7:46 pm

AriesCat wrote:
lovelyscales wrote:
I draw the line at porn of minors of any sort. Yes I'm biased. I've seen the lives if such innocent sweet children ruined over people who decided fantasy wasn't doing it any longer. It tore my heart to pieces. I can't stomach the thought of it. Sorry not even as fantasy. That's my stance and it can't be changed.


Just as long as you don't harass people over it. It's really really gaslighty when people start trying to 'explain' to me that an adult getting a silicon dildo with the same coloration as a pixel video game flower that might be underage somehow is exactly the same as what I went through as a child. No, no it was not. You don't have to be comfortable with it yourself, but please don't think you're somehow helping people like me if you bully others over it.

I've never harassed/doxed anyone over their attractions. I get that in most cases people can't help what they're attracted to. Doesn't make me any less uncomfortable about it. I didn't name names either because that's pretty much harassment right there. I.don't even put people on ignore for their fetishes/attractions/opinions.

The cartoon flower thing I agree was blown out of proportion. It's flora. Plus IIRC the person just had a fetish for sentient flora or the look of flowers. To me it was like someone finding Groot sexy. I don't know much about the character granted. Yet to me it just looks like a cartoon flower it doesn't look like a child or even any gender.

I don't bully people. No matter what I feel about their secual proclivities. Never have. That assumprion is a bit hurtful. My momma raised me better than that. I know nothing gets solved through harassment. I was bullied growing up myself. I was merely stating my opinion in the matter.
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Re: The forums feel dead

Postby Vitani » Sun May 08, 2016 8:13 pm

Screamy wrote:
Fruityrumpusasshole wrote:
Screamy wrote:Already someone has "warned' Akifu that their latest creation is the "spitting image' of BDs Guardian

http://akifutoys.tumblr.com/post/144051 ... at-all-but

Is this the community? Why is this such a rampantly common trope? Accusing creators offhandedly that they stole a design?


Can confirm. Been on the pointy end of a pitchfork over the same garbage. These people are rabid and everything is a copy of everything at this point. It's gotten to the point that legit concern is swept up under the rug or drowned by this type of stuff.

Though I haven't seen their new toy, so I can't say one way or the other on it's "copying"

This is the new toy
http://akifutoys.tumblr.com/post/144045 ... fascinated

People seem to take vague similarities such as "has a bulge" "has ridges" and "Has pointy tip" to mean "OMG THIS IS A COPY!!!"

I've seen this witch hunt before and it's always the same crap. Vague design similarities = copied :eyeroll:


It looks more like the ice dragon to me than anything else, but even that...not really.

Since when does the guardian have the ridges on the underside?
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Re: The forums feel dead

Postby kt~ » Sun May 08, 2016 8:14 pm

Vitani wrote:
Screamy wrote:
Fruityrumpusasshole wrote:
Can confirm. Been on the pointy end of a pitchfork over the same garbage. These people are rabid and everything is a copy of everything at this point. It's gotten to the point that legit concern is swept up under the rug or drowned by this type of stuff.

Though I haven't seen their new toy, so I can't say one way or the other on it's "copying"

This is the new toy
http://akifutoys.tumblr.com/post/144045 ... fascinated

People seem to take vague similarities such as "has a bulge" "has ridges" and "Has pointy tip" to mean "OMG THIS IS A COPY!!!"

I've seen this witch hunt before and it's always the same crap. Vague design similarities = copied :eyeroll:


It looks more like the ice dragon to me than anything else, but even that...not really.

Since when does the guardian have the ridges on the underside?

And it looks most like Nova to me :psyduck:
So, clearly not a copy of anything we can all agree on.
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Re: The forums feel dead

Postby nevan » Sun May 08, 2016 8:54 pm

kt~ wrote:
Vitani wrote:
Screamy wrote:This is the new toy
http://akifutoys.tumblr.com/post/144045 ... fascinated

People seem to take vague similarities such as "has a bulge" "has ridges" and "Has pointy tip" to mean "OMG THIS IS A COPY!!!"

I've seen this witch hunt before and it's always the same crap. Vague design similarities = copied :eyeroll:


It looks more like the ice dragon to me than anything else, but even that...not really.

Since when does the guardian have the ridges on the underside?

And it looks most like Nova to me :psyduck:
So, clearly not a copy of anything we can all agree on.


It looks more like one of their other toys, Drogger, to me - but like, vaguely similar - like it comes off as more of a 'signature style' of theirs or something. I don't really see the resemblance to Guardian at all. *shrug*
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Re: The forums feel dead

Postby karla-chan » Sun May 08, 2016 10:31 pm

The BJD fandom is something else for drama though... I'm still in there and wow, they kick off about anything.

lovelyscales wrote:
AriesCat wrote:
lovelyscales wrote:
I draw the line at porn of minors of any sort. Yes I'm biased. I've seen the lives if such innocent sweet children ruined over people who decided fantasy wasn't doing it any longer. It tore my heart to pieces. I can't stomach the thought of it. Sorry not even as fantasy. That's my stance and it can't be changed.


Just as long as you don't harass people over it. It's really really gaslighty when people start trying to 'explain' to me that an adult getting a silicon dildo with the same coloration as a pixel video game flower that might be underage somehow is exactly the same as what I went through as a child. No, no it was not. You don't have to be comfortable with it yourself, but please don't think you're somehow helping people like me if you bully others over it.

I've never harassed/doxed anyone over their attractions. I get that in most cases people can't help what they're attracted to. Doesn't make me any less uncomfortable about it. I didn't name names either because that's pretty much harassment right there. I.don't even put people on ignore for their fetishes/attractions/opinions.

The cartoon flower thing I agree was blown out of proportion. It's flora. Plus IIRC the person just had a fetish for sentient flora or the look of flowers. To me it was like someone finding Groot sexy. I don't know much about the character granted. Yet to me it just looks like a cartoon flower it doesn't look like a child or even any gender.

I don't bully people. No matter what I feel about their secual proclivities. Never have. That assumprion is a bit hurtful. My momma raised me better than that. I know nothing gets solved through harassment. I was bullied growing up myself. I was merely stating my opinion in the matter.


The fact we have been (or it feels that way to me) we have been jumped in its probably why the forum feels dead. I seriously just rolled my eyes are some of these responses. Just jump to all kinds of conclusions because I think sex with a minor is wrong.

I seriously also draw the line at minors, and really am ALWAYS going to say so. If you have fantasies about minors there is something wrong with you, and you need help before you hurt a real child. I'm not going to bully people. I'm far more likely to block people and not deal with them. (the ranting is not directed at you two)

I'm still going to stay my opinion though. I have the right to mine, and you do to yours.

But childrens cartoons don't bother me, as long as the character in question is an adult for their species. That is why I didn't care about Sugar Star, because she has signs that she is meant to be an adult because she is running her own bakery etc. So I don't see it as the same as minors being depicted in a sexual, or implied sexual manner. Also the main six can all be considered adults too. Since they all have jobs, or you can argue that Twilight is at university.

As long as the content linked to it is tagged appropriately so most child blocks, block it. I see it as harming no one. So no problem.

Also in general there is a HUGE difference between people liking something in their own home, and a company glorifying it. Since it is being public like that which does the harm. Like 50 Shades of Gray had lead to actual murders because they get so much wrong about BDSM and glorify abuse.

Since it's in the public, it is seen by a lot if people and had influenced them. So it does actually have a real effect on people. The toy itself maybe just silicone; BUT if all the character art and story screams child, it would be a hell no. That is the harmful part.

As for someone picking certain colours for a toy, I don't think that harms any one. Since its not a company publicly promoting underage characters. It's one person for their own reason choosing colours they like. Which isn't always sexual any way. I choose colours I think are pretty. Like with birthstones and planets, it's a bit hard to have a kink for those?? They are just colours at the end of the day.
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Re: The forums feel dead

Postby jessethemarshmallow » Sun May 08, 2016 10:38 pm

lovelyscales wrote:
AriesCat wrote:
lovelyscales wrote:
I draw the line at porn of minors of any sort. Yes I'm biased. I've seen the lives if such innocent sweet children ruined over people who decided fantasy wasn't doing it any longer. It tore my heart to pieces. I can't stomach the thought of it. Sorry not even as fantasy. That's my stance and it can't be changed.


Just as long as you don't harass people over it. It's really really gaslighty when people start trying to 'explain' to me that an adult getting a silicon dildo with the same coloration as a pixel video game flower that might be underage somehow is exactly the same as what I went through as a child. No, no it was not. You don't have to be comfortable with it yourself, but please don't think you're somehow helping people like me if you bully others over it.

I've never harassed/doxed anyone over their attractions. I get that in most cases people can't help what they're attracted to. Doesn't make me any less uncomfortable about it. I didn't name names either because that's pretty much harassment right there. I.don't even put people on ignore for their fetishes/attractions/opinions.

The cartoon flower thing I agree was blown out of proportion. It's flora. Plus IIRC the person just had a fetish for sentient flora or the look of flowers. To me it was like someone finding Groot sexy. I don't know much about the character granted. Yet to me it just looks like a cartoon flower it doesn't look like a child or even any gender.

I don't bully people. No matter what I feel about their secual proclivities. Never have. That assumprion is a bit hurtful. My momma raised me better than that. I know nothing gets solved through harassment. I was bullied growing up myself. I was merely stating my opinion in the matter.


Wait... :smilenox: I have a BD based on a pixelated video game flower...Did a discussion happen about me that I wasn't aware of? :laugh: Or maybe it was someone else. I just remember posting in the "Undertale Colors" thread about it and then never checked it because I didn't get quoted.
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Re: The forums feel dead

Postby karla-chan » Sun May 08, 2016 10:40 pm

Vitani wrote:
karla-chan wrote:I know it's just a toy, but what we glorify can cause other issue and make some people think it's okay..


Like...bestiality? Because that's honestly people's number one concern when they see/find out about my collection. :eyeroll:


I think BD straggle a line without crossing it there, because they are always fantasy version of things. Since there is a difference between being a fury, and being into beastiality. The difference is enough that I don't feel it's wrong and it doesn't harm any one.

Adult, intelligent consenting things to me are fully fine.

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