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Re: Anal Sex advice thread

Postby Irla » Sun Dec 07, 2014 1:38 pm

Prose wrote:All this talk of juice cleanses and deep cleaning is kind of scaring me... :shock:

My cleaning process has only ever involved my lilseadragon, and that seems to be enough to get me clean at least 9" in. But from the sound of it, it seems like a few people are using much more than 60ml at a time.

I know, it works fine for me so far... But should I be worried if I want to go deeper?


I may have misunderstood, but... 60 ml gets you clean 9'' in? Are you sure you don't mean 600 ml? I think I use about 200 ml, and if I didn't just go #2 a short time before cleaning it takes a long time. I often end up giving up before I'm completely done with it, because I get sore and impatient. I was planning on trying to use the double amount next time, and the longest toy I use at the moment is 7,5''. Maybe you're just naturally cleaner than me, and in that case I have to say I envy you.
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Re: Anal Sex advice thread

Postby Prose » Sun Dec 07, 2014 1:52 pm

Irla wrote:Maybe you're just naturally cleaner than me, and in that case I have to say I envy you.


Maybe... :mystery:

And yeah, I've never had any problems after just using the 60ml syringe (2 or 3 times, only if necessary). But I also tend to have a sense of when it's a good idea or not. The whole body rhythm thing!

(and actually, since starting with Chance that rhythm has been even more regular! Who needs a juice cleanse when you have Chance, the 20-minute colon cleanse! :laugh:)
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Re: Anal Sex advice thread

Postby MilesLupine » Sun Dec 07, 2014 2:02 pm

Prose wrote:And yeah, I've never had any problems after just using the 60ml syringe (2 or 3 times, only if necessary). But I also tend to have a sense of when it's a good idea or not. The whole body rhythm thing!

(and actually, since starting with Chance that rhythm has been even more regular! Who needs a juice cleanse when you have Chance, the 20-minute colon cleanse! :laugh:)

I have learned over doing it when trying to clean out can actually have some odd backfires at times >>' It wasn't a pretty experience. So knowing what is necessary does help a lot.

Yeah oddly I have noticed toy use does actually influence regularity myself o.o Not that it is perfect clockwork but stuff tends to line up daily a lot on weeks where I have more toy use than not and this is typically like a 1 hour or so variance at max.
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Re: Anal Sex advice thread

Postby kingsley » Mon Dec 08, 2014 11:02 am

MilesLupine wrote:I personally use a standard water bottle >>' So that is like upwards of 500ml. Thing is it works pretty well for me.


that's what I find works best.
easy to get, cheep, and disposable.
I seem to recall someone on here, some time ago, saying they use a 2L bottle!
but that sounds kinda akward to me :psyduck:

really wish it didn't take so long to get cleaned out, can take me hours to do a decent job of it.
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Re: Anal Sex advice thread

Postby MechaMoose » Mon Dec 08, 2014 11:48 am

I still stand by J-lube in my enema water. It grabs up all the grainy stuff and pre-lubes you.

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Re: Anal Sex advice thread

Postby Atrox » Tue Dec 09, 2014 5:28 am

Hey everyone, I've been having some difficulty in cleaning out for using my BD toy and this seemed like the best place to go for advice. (Spoilered for those who would rather not know details about my lower digestive tract)

[spoiler]So, I'm a bisexual male and about two years ago I ordered a small griffon to experiment with anal play. Unfortunately, all this time I've had him, I could probably count the number of times I've played with him on one hand. Its not that I don't enjoy it when I do, but it has always seemed to me that cleaning out has usually taken a ridiculous amount of effort and had unpredictable results. Since I'm only using a small toy, I've gotten the impression from some other posts on this thread that cleaning myself out adequately should be fairly straightforward.

Being the cheap bastard that I am, I purchased one of those cheap picnic ketchup bottles to wash out and whenever I attempt to prepare for play I go into the shower, fill it up and squeeze it out inside. This creates a strong feeling of having to go to the bathroom, so I go to the toilet and empty myself out. The problem is that this seems to cause me to have to have a real bowel movement, which then requires me to repeat the process. Every time I rinse out, my body just seems to move more waste down the pipe and I never seem to get any cleaner. Eventually (after 3-4 cycles of this) It starts to become somewhat painful to continue (like a dinner of bad mexican food) and the constant bowel movements cause an unpleasant 'empty' feeling in my gut and stomach cramps. Even if this succeeds in getting me tolerably clean inside, and it doesn't always, I usually feel too uncomfortable to continue on to actually playing with my gryphon.

On those few occasions that I have gotten as far as actually playing, It was great! I normally can last a fairly long time but when I am toying with the gryphon I cum within a couple minutes. I would really like to do it more often, does anyone know what my problem is? Diet? Am I using too much water to clean out (~300 mls per rinse I'd guess)? Or is my body just too sensitive for anal play?

Thank you for taking the time to read, any insight would be greatly appreciated![/spoiler]
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Re: Anal Sex advice thread

Postby Irla » Tue Dec 09, 2014 10:42 am

Atrox wrote:Hey everyone, I've been having some difficulty in cleaning out for using my BD toy and this seemed like the best place to go for advice. (Spoilered for those who would rather not know details about my lower digestive tract)

[spoiler]So, I'm a bisexual male and about two years ago I ordered a small griffon to experiment with anal play. Unfortunately, all this time I've had him, I could probably count the number of times I've played with him on one hand. Its not that I don't enjoy it when I do, but it has always seemed to me that cleaning out has usually taken a ridiculous amount of effort and had unpredictable results. Since I'm only using a small toy, I've gotten the impression from some other posts on this thread that cleaning myself out adequately should be fairly straightforward.

Being the cheap bastard that I am, I purchased one of those cheap picnic ketchup bottles to wash out and whenever I attempt to prepare for play I go into the shower, fill it up and squeeze it out inside. This creates a strong feeling of having to go to the bathroom, so I go to the toilet and empty myself out. The problem is that this seems to cause me to have to have a real bowel movement, which then requires me to repeat the process. Every time I rinse out, my body just seems to move more waste down the pipe and I never seem to get any cleaner. Eventually (after 3-4 cycles of this) It starts to become somewhat painful to continue (like a dinner of bad mexican food) and the constant bowel movements cause an unpleasant 'empty' feeling in my gut and stomach cramps. Even if this succeeds in getting me tolerably clean inside, and it doesn't always, I usually feel too uncomfortable to continue on to actually playing with my gryphon.

On those few occasions that I have gotten as far as actually playing, It was great! I normally can last a fairly long time but when I am toying with the gryphon I cum within a couple minutes. I would really like to do it more often, does anyone know what my problem is? Diet? Am I using too much water to clean out (~300 mls per rinse I'd guess)? Or is my body just too sensitive for anal play?

Thank you for taking the time to read, any insight would be greatly appreciated![/spoiler]


From what I've heard using too much water can trigger a reflex where your entire system just empties out, but I didn't think 300 ml would be enough to do that. Still, it might help to reduce the amount of water you use. Also, If you can make sure you have had a bowel movement earlier in the day that might also help.
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Re: Anal Sex advice thread

Postby Prose » Tue Dec 09, 2014 11:02 am

Indeed. Diet may be a factor. How's your digestive health normally? (As in how often, what consistency, any known disorders?) Obviously you don't want to be toying on a day you're having bowel problems otherwise, but also make sure you are cleaning out after you've had a good movement.

Volume may also be an issue. If you aren't going very deep, I don't think 300ml should be necessary. Deep cleaning is only really needed if you're going deeper than (approx.) 5.5" So you might be going overboard! :D
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Re: Anal Sex advice thread

Postby Tachyon1 » Tue Dec 09, 2014 8:37 pm

Atrox wrote:Hey everyone, I've been having some difficulty in cleaning out for using my BD toy and this seemed like the best place to go for advice. (Spoilered for those who would rather not know details about my lower digestive tract)

[spoiler]So, I'm a bisexual male and about two years ago I ordered a small griffon to experiment with anal play. Unfortunately, all this time I've had him, I could probably count the number of times I've played with him on one hand. Its not that I don't enjoy it when I do, but it has always seemed to me that cleaning out has usually taken a ridiculous amount of effort and had unpredictable results. Since I'm only using a small toy, I've gotten the impression from some other posts on this thread that cleaning myself out adequately should be fairly straightforward.

Being the cheap bastard that I am, I purchased one of those cheap picnic ketchup bottles to wash out and whenever I attempt to prepare for play I go into the shower, fill it up and squeeze it out inside. This creates a strong feeling of having to go to the bathroom, so I go to the toilet and empty myself out. The problem is that this seems to cause me to have to have a real bowel movement, which then requires me to repeat the process. Every time I rinse out, my body just seems to move more waste down the pipe and I never seem to get any cleaner. Eventually (after 3-4 cycles of this) It starts to become somewhat painful to continue (like a dinner of bad mexican food) and the constant bowel movements cause an unpleasant 'empty' feeling in my gut and stomach cramps. Even if this succeeds in getting me tolerably clean inside, and it doesn't always, I usually feel too uncomfortable to continue on to actually playing with my gryphon.

On those few occasions that I have gotten as far as actually playing, It was great! I normally can last a fairly long time but when I am toying with the gryphon I cum within a couple minutes. I would really like to do it more often, does anyone know what my problem is? Diet? Am I using too much water to clean out (~300 mls per rinse I'd guess)? Or is my body just too sensitive for anal play?

Thank you for taking the time to read, any insight would be greatly appreciated![/spoiler]



I definitely has similar experiences as you have had when it doesn't seem to end. I have admittedly used a water bottle do that action a couple years back but only tried it once or twice before moving onto tools that are designed for clean outs. Other times when I felt it doesn't end was because I did not plan out ahead of time or it was just too late in the night (still live with my parents and the bathroom is on the same level as their bedroom and plumping alone can make noise that would make it difficult to sleep) for me to comfortably clean out properly; especially if I have work the next day.

What I can say from my experience is if I want to do some anal toying, I plan 2 days in advance. If I wanted to play on a Friday, I would actually eat light and/or eat lots of fibre on the Wednesday. Coming Thursday is when I can have the my own normal bowel movements but I would hardly eat anything that day, maybe some yogurt and the like; no solids. On the Friday, do the necessary actions to empty out and then start my ~2 hour enema session after. I currently use XR-Brands Clean Stream Black Enema Kit which holds around 3.8 L but I don't take the whole bag at once (I have tried up to have in one go but at the stage, I was way to sensitive but felt AMAZING for the water to come out). I probably take 1/3 of that before I go to the toilet to empty myself and then repeating until the bag is almost empty then re-fill. I keep going for the 2 hours or until I feel that I would be OK to start toying. This gives me enough time for me to properly clean out to take on toys above 12". Same method has gotten me past the medial ring on my recent purchase of an XL Chance Unflared (Medium 5 Shaft/Firm 8 Base); couldn't go to the base as I was way too exhausted by that time :stick:

As for foods, I would stay away from oily and greasy items and would actually recommend high fibre foods to help with the cleaning process for your bowels if I wanted to play around that week. Eating a lot of fibre would also make you feel more full faster so you wouldn't have to eat more often to feel not hungry.

This has worked well for *me* so far. I know it does sounds pretty excessive to some but this works for me if I want to have not only a rewarding anal play session, but also one without unwanted "exits" on the sheets. Your own mileage will vary.

However, if you are concerned of your own bowel health and get some things clarified, I would suggest speaking with your doctor and act on their recommendations.
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Re: Anal Sex advice thread

Postby Atrox » Tue Dec 09, 2014 10:33 pm

Ah, thanks for the advice everyone. Sounds like my problem might be not watching my food a few days beforehand and possibly the water thing. I usually have a somewhat meat and dairy heavy diet, so I'll try avoiding that stuff for a few days ahead of time. I thought I could just spontaneously decide to do it one night and then take a shower after everyone was asleep. Seems like it takes more foresight. Oh well.

Tachyon, it seems you are far, far more ambitious than I when it comes to size but nonetheless, lots of useful info! I'll give your system a shot and see how it goes. For the shorter kind of toy (and the real thing, when the time comes) is my makeshift solution for washing out adequate or would there be a significant benefit for purpose made items?
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Re: Anal Sex advice thread

Postby JustABigTeddyBear » Wed Dec 10, 2014 2:33 am

With my small Cole, I havent bothered cleaning out. I just make sure to wash the toy really well before and after.

With my medium David - my first toy with a cum tube - I just tried doing 3-5 syringes full of water through it, just getting the tip in. That left me much, much cleaner than before, but still not perfectly clean. No big deal. I rinsed everything off in the shower, and have some good quality toy cleaner from a local porn shop I use for all my toys. and oh gosh, the cum lube is so good... X)
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Re: Anal Sex advice thread

Postby Conrad » Wed Dec 10, 2014 5:42 am

300ml's does sound like a rather large amount. Personally I use the BD Syringe's (50ml). Toilet first, then bend over, squirt, jostle about and jump to get it moving and then empty out. I usually do a good few squirts, depending on how much.. waste, is up there. Though I'm usually left fine, and my diet is goddamn terrible. Also, I use the bathroom, wait a while to let myself relax, and try for another empty-out and flush later on before cleaning out.

That said, I'm not afraid to get my fingers a little dirty with some digging if necessary.. I tend to shower before my play-sessions anyway.

Apologies if that's a little TMI, but hey, this would be the thread for it!
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Re: Anal Sex advice thread

Postby kingsley » Wed Dec 10, 2014 6:12 am

Atrox wrote:Ah, thanks for the advice everyone. Sounds like my problem might be not watching my food a few days beforehand and possibly the water thing. I usually have a somewhat meat and dairy heavy diet, so I'll try avoiding that stuff for a few days ahead of time. I thought I could just spontaneously decide to do it one night and then take a shower after everyone was asleep. Seems like it takes more foresight. Oh well.


I seem to have similar problems when I eat a lot of dairy products... I think I'm somewhat sensitive to them and I have a finicy digestive system to begin with. :?
but whenever I eat a lot of dairy my bowels are just like "NOP! not gonna happen." :lol:

I wouldn't bother avoiding greesy foods unless you eat an excessive amount of them, if anything I'd think oils would help things move through you better. but everyone is different.
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Re: Anal Sex advice thread

Postby Tachyon1 » Wed Dec 10, 2014 8:03 pm

Atrox wrote:Ah, thanks for the advice everyone. Sounds like my problem might be not watching my food a few days beforehand and possibly the water thing. I usually have a somewhat meat and dairy heavy diet, so I'll try avoiding that stuff for a few days ahead of time. I thought I could just spontaneously decide to do it one night and then take a shower after everyone was asleep. Seems like it takes more foresight. Oh well.

Tachyon, it seems you are far, far more ambitious than I when it comes to size but nonetheless, lots of useful info! I'll give your system a shot and see how it goes. For the shorter kind of toy (and the real thing, when the time comes) is my makeshift solution for washing out adequate or would there be a significant benefit for purpose made items?


I would lean onto products that are designed for clean outs such as enema bags in contrast to squeeze bottles. The main issue that I have with that method (and have experienced myself when I was experimenting various methods to clean out) is the actual squeeze action would have to be maintained for it not suck back the material into the bottle which in my view defeats the purpose for actually cleaning out

The advantage of the enema bags is that you let gravity do all the work. With the difference in potential, the force is actually quite strong if you hang the bag high enough. Luckily, the bath and shower tub that I have at home has sliding doors and has a large enough lip on top of the rails for me to hang mine pretty high. Plus, there is zero change of the material coming back the other way into the bag as the water will always want to drop down because of the gravity pulling it.

However, it is not for the faint of heart. I remember the first time I used it, I did NOT expect the mass rush of the water to come in and didn't have quick enough control of my sphincter (at the time, nowadays its old-hat) at the time and well, you can imagine what was there at the bottom of the tub...

Now that I have a proper handle on it, I do go to the toilet to empty out on the first 2 or 3 bags worth and by that point, its very manageable for me to empty out in the tub directly. And the added bonus that I would be very sensitive and in the mood by then which helps a lot.

As for prep for smaller toys, I know well enough now that for me at least, no other method will suit me regardless of toy size. I have been burned too many times thinking that I wouldn't have to do a thorough clean out with some of my smaller toys. When your muscles get stimulated, I found that it will stimulate your entire colon as the body's natural response for items going in is to push out to.

I would also suggest to keep this in mind especially if you want to engage with another partner (although being still single, I can't speak really more on that subject with more detail), you don't want to have "unwanted items" during play. Using condoms in that scenario would also be highly recommended.
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Re: Anal Sex advice thread

Postby kingsley » Wed Dec 10, 2014 9:55 pm

Tachyon1 wrote:I would lean onto products that are designed for clean outs such as enema bags in contrast to squeeze bottles. The main issue that I have with that method (and have experienced myself when I was experimenting various methods to clean out) is the actual squeeze action would have to be maintained for it not suck back the material into the bottle which in my view defeats the purpose for actually cleaning out


isn't the point to get the material out?
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Re: Anal Sex advice thread

Postby Tachyon1 » Wed Dec 10, 2014 10:48 pm

kingsley wrote:
Tachyon1 wrote:I would lean onto products that are designed for clean outs such as enema bags in contrast to squeeze bottles. The main issue that I have with that method (and have experienced myself when I was experimenting various methods to clean out) is the actual squeeze action would have to be maintained for it not suck back the material into the bottle which in my view defeats the purpose for actually cleaning out


isn't the point to get the material out?


When I was researching for various products to clean out, one of them was sort of the douche style with the stem so very similar with squeezable bottles (I would have to correct myself as the douche style is also designed to clean out out but for clarity, it wasn't a good fit for me). You had the stem to insert and then the bulb (usually rubber or some similar material) to hold the water to squirt out. I did purchase one years ago but it was annoying (at least for me) that I had to squeeze and hold that squeeze when removing the stem so that it won't suck it back to the bulb, I didn't like the idea of having to clean out the bulb as well after. I would then have to refill the bulb again under the bath tub's faucet by twisting the stem off and then twisting it back on (like a screw) and then having to repeat that many times over until I was satisfied with the results. Although the one I got was actually designed to do the clean out. My and hands would get tired and I would be annoyed after and that is why I got the enema bag instead as it simply held more water and all I had to do was squat (or stand) there until I had the urge to release before going over to the toilet.

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Re: Anal Sex advice thread

Postby Irla » Thu Dec 11, 2014 11:17 am

Tachyon1 wrote: I did purchase one years ago but it was annoying (at least for me) that I had to squeeze and hold that squeeze when removing the stem so that it won't suck it back to the bulb, I didn't like the idea of having to clean out the bulb as well after. I would then have to refill the bulb again under the bath tub's faucet by twisting the stem off and then twisting it back on (like a screw) and then having to repeat that many times over until I was satisfied with the results. Although the one I got was actually designed to do the clean out. My and hands would get tired and I would be annoyed after and that is why I got the enema bag instead as it simply held more water and all I had to do was squat (or stand) there until I had the urge to release before going over to the toilet.


I know exactly what you mean about the bulb being annoying. I had to fill mine five times the other day before I had gotten relatively clean, even though I had a bowel movement only one hour before I started (I found it a bit odd that it took so many times, since my diet is very high in fibre, but I may have eaten some junk and then forgotten about it :mystery:). I also have to clean it between each time, because the stem doesn't come of, so it takes for ever. It also doesn't hold enough water for me anymore, even after squeezing out as much as I can from it I can barely feel that I have any water in me. I can't wait to get myself an enema bag instead. That has to be so much easier and better.
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Re: Anal Sex advice thread

Postby XG1 » Thu Dec 11, 2014 12:24 pm

This is why I eventually moved to using a hose connected to the shower head. Unlimited water and a speedier overall process. Pressure simply controlled by holding the hose end closer or further away from the tailhole.

Not for beginners, but it allows complete cleaning in about 90 minutes.
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Re: Anal Sex advice thread

Postby Lone Wolf » Thu Dec 11, 2014 6:14 pm

XG1 wrote:This is why I eventually moved to using a hose connected to the shower head. Unlimited water and a speedier overall process. Pressure simply controlled by holding the hose end closer or further away from the tailhole.

Not for beginners, but it allows complete cleaning in about 90 minutes.


I too have used the hose connected to the shower trick!! Works great. I espesaly like that I can adjust the water temp to my likening. I also like to see just how much I can fill myself and how long I can hold it all in!!! Adds a lil bit of fore play before the real play begins.
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Re: Anal Sex advice thread

Postby Tachyon1 » Thu Dec 11, 2014 10:57 pm

Always wanted to do that but unfortunately, I don't think our shower is can be easily replaced with a shower hose setup. Plus, not very adept at fumbling around with basic home plumbing :stick: .

Tried to look for ones that I can attach to the faucet, but haven't found anything appropriate for the type of faucet I have at home for the bath tub.

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