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Artist/writer's advice thread

Postby DelilahdaDirtyDork » Sun Jul 02, 2017 1:47 am

Yeah I'm bringing this thing back to life. Sucks that for some reason lots of topics and posts gets deleted for no apparent reason. But liked the idea of just having a spot where you can come in and ask for or give some input for you're art and stories that are in the works. I often need to throw ideas to the wall and see what sticks. And some subjects like sex can be awkward to bring up outside of your close personal friends who you share your stories with.

I know a while back I post the idea before (which also got deleted for no reason go figure) with something I was curious about in one of my stories. I've been currently tossing around the idea of having a Futa (aka a girl who has both genitals) in my super hero story of Solar Girl. But Solar Girl despite having mature themes like our title hero is in fact a Nudist when she's not crime fighting, This isn't an Erotic story. Really the only thing I have for her is the reveal where our main hero accidentally finds out that her friend is the Futa in question. And there is some awkwardness but mostly because our heroine hasn't encountered someone like her before, and also apologizes for unintentionally making her friend self conscience about her gifts.

The problem is outside of really fleshing out this character is...I honestly don't know what to do with Ms. Futa in regards to that feature. Outside of sex, I don't foreseeing her having any kind of situation where that thing gets brought up again. And No I don't plan to make that her only focus point, much like Solar Girl and her drama of being a nudist. It will be a part of her character sure but I won't be constantly bringing it up & hammering the point of "Oh woe is me for being a nudist, did I mention I'm a nudist. THE PAIN OF IT ALL!"

Though Ironically, that is kind of why I wanted to include the idea of a futa & the nudist thing, kind of for the novelty of it but I didn't want the gimmicks to be their only defining traits.

And in other story of fantasy & adventure, I don't know if anyone else here is familiar with the old Atari Sword Quest games & the lost treasure legend. But long story short it's a collection of treasures my adventuring are gonna go after. And I have talisman that answers nearly any question, a crown that grants divine healing powers, a powerful magical sword, and a philosopher's stone which grants immortality/eternal youth. So my other problem is what happens when you drink from something named The Chalice of Light ? Sure I could repeat like immortality or youth but if I did I think I would have "chosen poorly" lol.

What do you guys think?
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Re: Artist/writer's advice thread

Postby Kiran » Sun Jul 02, 2017 7:22 am

For the chalice of light, give them illimunation? Break the mold and make that drinking from it give you the ability to see everything under their true light, so no "hiding" like hiding who you are. Instead of giving eternal life, use possibility related to the light, whatever it can be! It could even just give a vision like you have in broad daylight even in darkest place lol.
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Postby miyumouse » Sun Jul 02, 2017 11:49 pm

that's actually a pretty cool idea for the Chalice I think, giving it that whole Lens of Truth vibe.
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Re: Artist/writer's advice thread

Postby DelilahdaDirtyDork » Mon Jul 03, 2017 12:59 am

Kiran wrote:For the chalice of light, give them illimunation? Break the mold and make that drinking from it give you the ability to see everything under their true light, so no "hiding" like hiding who you are. Instead of giving eternal life, use possibility related to the light, whatever it can be! It could even just give a vision like you have in broad daylight even in darkest place lol.
miyumouse wrote:that's actually a pretty cool idea for the Chalice I think, giving it that whole Lens of Truth vibe.


Comparing to the the Lens of Truth made it a bit more clear for me, eheh. ^.^; I think that will work for me. Originally the Light part of it only seemed to be that the chalice glows. Every time I was trying to think of it, I was thinking back to that episode of Dexter's Lab where Dex & and his friends were playing their own take on D&D with DeeDee as the DM. And Dex asks for the Grail they were questing for. He then goes, "Wow what's it do?" & his sister goes, "Well...you can drink from it, and it will never spill." rofl.

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Postby Shardik » Tue Jul 04, 2017 3:43 pm

DelilahdaDirtyDork wrote: :words:


I would take a huge page from Jeph Jacques' "Questionable Content" webcomic. He has a trans character and writing has has mostly been entirely about (a) her brother being excessively protective of her whenever she talks to people about it, and (b) exactly one comic where her boyfriend finally saw her naked. Despite ridiculous amounts of angsting by a couple of fans about "What does Claire have in her pants?" Jacques never addressed it because it didn't matter.

I did a similar thing with my wheelchair-bound bodybuilder, Eva. You can't escape the reality of the character, but you don't have to harp on it. I did okay with her, especially the scene where laughs at people about her being "innocent." She deals with pervs all the time who are turned on by her immobility, although she's clearly capable of punching out anyone who takes her on.

And there's a strain of thought about writing that straight, white guys are the template, and if you deviate from that as an expectation, you have to do something with it. In fiction, straight white people just are, and if you have someone who's not straight, white, or cis, it's a political statement in some way. It doesn't have to be. The universe is full of non-straight, non-white, non-cis people; including one in your story isn't a political statement, doesn't have to be a plot bunny of any flavor.

Go back to the basics: What does your futa character want? How do they get it? How hard will they fight to get it? How do they react when they don't? Remember: A scene is when a character shows up with a specific, acute, meetable need; the scene is about how they try to get that need met; the scene ends when the character fails, which compels them into the next scene. If your futa character has, among other things, a desire for a relationship, you could show them struggling with the superhero pervs and futa pervs and who knows what else, all in the search for a "good man" or "good woman" who can appreciate who they are without objectifying them.

You don't have to write sex; just being a futa can be immensely complicating to one's romantic life. It could be an ongoing kvetch in their life.

I know exactly what I'd do with a futanari in a contemporary setting. I'd write zir to mock the weird homoeroticism of misogynists, a lot of whom, for some reason, really like and objectify futanari. They want a beautiful woman in the streets, but not with the icky (sometimes bleeding) girl parts in the sheets. That would be zir nemesis, while zhi looks for that working poly relationship that really does it for zir. And maybe zhi would have a practical approach to falling in love.
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Re: Artist/writer's advice thread

Postby DelilahdaDirtyDork » Sun Aug 27, 2017 11:49 pm

Been working on my 2 major fantasy adventure stories, Rena & Seth. Seth being my non-erotic one. I feel rather torn with some of the stuff & still go back and forth if I'm gonna make Seth a traditional fantasy adventure, or have it be a Elves/Aliens kind of thing. Even learning of the new Solarpunk which is ideal to me as oppose to the traditional cyber punk stuff, it's just rubbing me the wrong way with the sci-fi in Seth and I admit to struggling with trying to come up with original aliens & stuff.

Rena...I like Rena, I love the ideas I come up with. Hell I even started planning a spin off with her dark copy even though the dark copy doesn't show up until book 2 & I'm started getting started with book 1 only ch 11.3 But...there are times when I feel embarrassed about it, because I'm fairly certain these stories will never get published in any form. & ...I always feel a twinge of guilt of how I'm absorbing so much knowledge and putting in lots of effort & notes for a story that originally was just simple smut. And sex is still a major plot element. The whole thing with Rena is that she's studying sex with demi-humans with hands on experiences and writes a book about how to have a relationship both in & outside of the bedroom with one. Even pointing out how sex is a major part of our lives, & even IF magical panties sounds silly, in a realistic magic world of course you would have those things. I guess part of the guilt of it is I feel like I could be doing more with myself, Seth the Stranger should be the story taking up my time but I can't even finish ch 3 of it. Instead I'm...spending time on glorified porn.

The only reason I don't want to give it up is because it's been turning out so good I hate to just give up and scrap it. Too often do I take breaks to give myself time breath and come back fresh only to find the writer's block is still there. It's getting depressing & frustrating at times.
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Re: Artist/writer's advice thread

Postby Curiosa » Tue Aug 29, 2017 4:46 pm

^ If it makes you happy I think it would be worth working through those guilty feelings. If 50 Shades of Unfortunate Implications can get published, there's hope for a writer that actually gives a shit about the erotic subject matter.


I can't pick a beginning. I've written three separate starts to my story but I can't pick one to stick to. There's some pros and cons to each:

-> Beginning 1 keeps it lean with the characters (just 2) and has the least potential for plot holes, but I'm not happy about it. personally I think its the most boring.

-> Beginning 2 puts more emphasis on the protagonist's life before all the magical hoopala but its the longest. It also puts more spotlight on a character I like but I'm worried anyone who reads it will feel bored with it.

-> Beginning 3 throws readers right into the action and introduces an important character in a dynamic way. Puts less emphasis on the protagonist's life before all the hoopala started and thus i feel has less emotional impact given what happens to the supporting character.

Maybe I should write a fourth beginning that combines my favorite stuff about beginnings 2 & 3. I dunno. Is there even a way for me to do that?
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Re: Artist/writer's advice thread

Postby DelilahdaDirtyDork » Thu Aug 31, 2017 9:43 pm

Curiosa wrote:^ If it makes you happy I think it would be worth working through those guilty feelings. If 50 Shades of Unfortunate Implications can get published, there's hope for a writer that actually gives a shit about the erotic subject matter.


I can't pick a beginning. I've written three separate starts to my story but I can't pick one to stick to. There's some pros and cons to each:

-> Beginning 1 keeps it lean with the characters (just 2) and has the least potential for plot holes, but I'm not happy about it. personally I think its the most boring.

-> Beginning 2 puts more emphasis on the protagonist's life before all the magical hoopala but its the longest. It also puts more spotlight on a character I like but I'm worried anyone who reads it will feel bored with it.

-> Beginning 3 throws readers right into the action and introduces an important character in a dynamic way. Puts less emphasis on the protagonist's life before all the hoopala started and thus i feel has less emotional impact given what happens to the supporting character.

Maybe I should write a fourth beginning that combines my favorite stuff about beginnings 2 & 3. I dunno. Is there even a way for me to do that?


1. True.

2. Combining 2&3, sounds like a good idea. Having not read it...my best suggestion is, & I've seen this done before, start the characters in the middle of some of the actions & then flash back to the backstory before all the hoopala. But instead of a entire flashback, maybe go back and forth & tie things together. Like have certain events trigger memories of what happened before. I have something similar planed with my super, Solar Girl/Shyla. This way you can give character development while also keeping the reader entertained. You gotta try to find even ground so you don't give mood whiplash. Like say that other characters need the hero with the phrase, "I'm counting on you." And that make our hero hesitate because, the last time someone counted on them he let them down and then you go into some detail about that how that went down before getting back to the present. Then you can wrap it up in a nice bow as he finishes flashing back to how he go to enter said hoopala so to does he go now to solve it.
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Re: Artist/writer's advice thread

Postby DelilahdaDirtyDork » Tue Nov 28, 2017 12:27 pm

Okay, I wanted to post up my 5th issue of Solar Girl (which I should publish on here at some point) But I ran into a problem that might...irk casual readers and I wanted to ask this before post something stupid that might trigger people.

This story has a investigation plot of trying to figure out who our new super villainess named Pyro Queen is. And Her motive is revenge because way back when, she & 6 other kids (one of them is her target news lady Ronda) used be part of their own private club called the Matchstick gang. Formed because our villain had issues, lots of them, and developed pyromania. And she liked this gang because they too had issues with fitting in, & mostly family issues. One of them had alcoholic parents & spent most of their nights in a drunk stupor, others were always busy with work & hardly ever paid attention to them, One of them was even verbally abused.

The trouble is one of gang members named Katey (who is not our villain she's the one who provides backstory & info to our heroes) I had originally had the idea that her issues was that her Bio-mother became a lesbian (this was back when it wasn't as socially accepted as it is today.) And her 2nd mom was also into Katey too but not in the creepy, "did something horrible to her" way. I implied it was a consenting secret affair and the drama problem she was having was they both knew it was wrong & having to live with that burden & romantic relationship problems in general over time. This the current dialog I have for it, I edited it but I wasn't sure what I should add/change. and for reference Alex is another hero named Metal Cop.

“So we heard. What was your sad story?” Alex asks.
“Me? Well...my parents were divorced, Dad was in prison for drug dealing. Mother...made a life style choice that wasn’t as accepted back then as it was today.” She sighs thinking about it. “And other Mom...well let’s just say my biological mother wasn’t the only girl she was interested in.” Oh…
“Did you take legal action, tell anyone?” Alex asks with some concern.
“That was the other problem...” She admitted with a blush. “It wasn’t like what others think. She wanted me to be happy.”


When I post these stories up I do mark them as a mature storyline partly because of Solar Girl's background is a nudist and super hero stories tend to have mature subject maters, you know cause of that that whole "Crime" part of Crime fighting. I try not to be graphic & I currently don't think I could make really creepy psychos like Batman's Prof. Pyg who likes to forcefully surgically turn people into his dollotrons drones to make them "perfect". Ugh...

This whole backstory for Katey won't really add to anything in the long run (at least right now, I've been known to take previous stuff I've made and go "Hey I can use this for this story line." You never know.). I wanted to have it to establish the details that nearly every member of the Matchstick gang had their troubles and that's what brought them together but as they grew up and went their ways they realized a lot their problems weren't as bad as they first thought. They grew up and turned out okay, with the exception of the girl who became Pyro Queen because she had a crappy life from childhood into adulthood.

Soo...yeah I'm not sure how the casual readers would react to this. I mean granted it's nothing you probably wouldn't normally see in like an episode of Law & Order but still...people tend to get triggered over certain things. I know I can't please everyone but I would like the general reaction NOT to be "WTF Delilah?" You know what I mean?

And this really sucks because I almost called the story done but then I read back through it and I'm like "Uh...eh...this might need to be fixed first."
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Re: Artist/writer's advice thread

Postby Curiosa » Tue Nov 28, 2017 3:30 pm

DelilahdaDirtyDork wrote: :words:
Any suggestions?


It's gonna really depend on how sympathetic you want mom2 to be. Readers are gonna hate her from the get go for being in a relationship with a minor, especially since it's her lover's biological child. Best case scenario I can see people interpreting the dialog as Katey downplaying/excusing the abuse, as I've seen survivors do before. And yes, people are going to strongly read this as abuse since Mom2 is assumed to be in a parental position.

It's gonna be an uphill battle if you want mom2 to be sympathetic. Might I suggest a scene where they get Katey's contact info from Mom2 and the latter gives a cryptic "If you do find her, will you give her a message? Tell her I'm sorry. Tell her I wish I did things differently, and that she deserved better from me. She'll know what I'm talking about." That'll at least cue the reader that she feels some regret about the nature of that relationship, give her some room to stay in the morally gray. If she tries to make excuses it'll just make the reader angry. Mostly at Mom2, but you as well if such dialog isn't executed properly.*

The way I'm reading into it is that Katey's kind of in denial/doesn't recognize is as being abuse. Talking from experience, it took me years to realise that certain relationships I've had with friends and family weren't the healthiest (verbal/psychological abuse for clarification). Sometimes it can take years before you realize and/or admit that that situation you were in was abusive, and Katey might not be there yet so she's framing the relationship as consensual.

*Two examples I can think of of audiences being ticked at a creator instead of the scenario is the Terra/Slade relationship from the original Teen Titans comics, and what happens to Sansa in season 5 of Game of Thrones.

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Just to stress, you're already making progress by being critical of your own work. Lord knows I certainly could have benefited from it when I was writing back in high school/early college. My writing would have been a lot better if I made more conscious effort to think what kind of message my work was sending. It's something I'm surprised they never teach in creative writing classes.
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Re: Artist/writer's advice thread

Postby DelilahdaDirtyDork » Tue Nov 28, 2017 8:37 pm

Curiosa wrote: :words:


Well if what I have currently written was bad...then I'm pretty sure what I had before was just as bad. I didn't want to go into too much detail about it since she's mostly a glorified extra. I did want Mom2 to be more sympathetic but...that seems like it's gonna require more effort than I had originally planned. I did learn about Terra/Deathstroke, and at first only knew of the Teen Titans from the 2003 show, I assumed there were comics. So imagine my surprise at the original take on that pairing.
I know very little of Game of Thrones sadly (from what little I do know is awesome though).

That being said, I think I might just change it & drop the underage idea all together and come up with something else. Sure I could just have Mom2 be unsympathetic but I want to avoid Shock ideas for the sake of Shock value. I know I don't want the Bio-mom being a les the only problem. I already played that kind of card as it is, I don't want to make it sound like only the LGBT people have problems this isn't some crappy soap opera after all.

Thanks for the input. ^.^
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Re: Artist/writer's advice thread

Postby DelilahdaDirtyDork » Sun Jan 07, 2018 1:53 am

So I'm currently working the lore for my fantasy races for my Rena the Beast Charmer & Seth the Stranger storylines. Lots of world building for lore & such. However I ran into a probably which is kind of funny when you think about from my perspective. I spent a frick load of time looking up all kinds of fantasy monsters & creatures from all over the world. However a thought occurs to me, I haven't really done a lot with humans.

I have almost 20 maybe more different kinds of elves. I've got more elves than I know what to do with. Which makes me surprised that when it comes to humans...they don't get a lot of love. So I'm now trying to come up with different ethnic/subraces of humans. I have a couple I want but not all of them are completely solid. And being a Caucasian person from America...I know very little about other cutlers and I really really don't want to come off racist. I also have NO idea of what to actually call them. Since obviously I can't call the "black"/person with a dark complexion African if Africa does not exist on my fantasy planet. The closest I came up with was idea of using the world man or human in a different language that would kind of ballpark of what kind of race I'm talking about since they would likely speak that language. (Despite the broken logic that anyone can learn to speak a different language, I mean took a course of both Spanish & French in high school, and know a little Japanese from watching anime & tokusatsu.)

Example Ningen is the Japanese word for Human, and Binadamu is Swahili which I used for my Asian & African respectivly stand in names. But I honestly don't know how well that will fly. Even if I figure out their names, I'm also kind of like struggling to describe their culture I'm probably gonna mix a few things here & there maybe. Like blending both things like the Chinese & Japanese cultures because they are similar, for simplicity. Again I'm trying to do this with the best of intentions.

Two of human races I have that are finished (yet ironically fitting) are the more fantastical ones. The Beast-Men, a race humans are were wolves and other were beasts who pass on their were "curse" to their offspring. & The Magicae a group of humans who are more strongly connected to magic much like elves are and they believe themselves to be the next of humans. (kind of but not to the extreme of the mutants from X-men)

I know a couple of themes I kind of want.

Obviously the traditional humans of Kings & Knights and so on. Far Eastern people for things like Ninjas, Monks, & Samurai. Some thing with Ancient Egypt with mummies and pharaohs, Norse style Viking Giants that will predate humans (like da Vrykul from WoW) I was thinking of maybe including Indians of Native America, Mayans/Aztechs for one of my worlds that includes dinosaurs.

One other idea I kind of had that hasn't worked out for me as I had hoped is maybe try just doing one human race per continet of Earth at least as a starting point...no such luck really.

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Re: Artist/writer's advice thread

Postby Curiosa » Sun Jan 28, 2018 1:27 am

DelilahdaDirtyDork wrote:
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One class I've found to be indispensable to my writing is the two cultural anthropology classes I took in college. The bulk of the schoolwork was a bit dense but the reading material was really interesting, I still have the textbook from the first class I took for reference. If you like I can put together a reading list to help your research. Also my history classes over the years really influenced my writing, through events, historical figures, and cultural practices that used to be a thing inspiring my work.

Not gonna lie, there’s gonna be some potential pitfalls when you include influences other than Western cultures. However, this is an opportunity to learn about ways of life other than your own and use them as positive influences for your story. Also, be sure to listen to people from the cultures/ethnicities that are still around and listen to their peeves/wishes about how they're portrayed in media. As a writer, research and communication is your best friend.
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Another good idea when creating a fantasy culture is asking yourself what this culture values. Which emotions are acceptable/unacceptable to publicly express? What crimes are considered the most heinous, what would be misdemeanors? What are their taboos? What are their rites of passage?

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I'll be adding a follow up post that's being kept separate from this one since it'll also address some problems I've had with my own writing.
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Re: Artist/writer's advice thread

Postby DelilahdaDirtyDork » Mon Jan 29, 2018 5:34 pm

Curiosa wrote: :words:


Thanks, as someone who is considering college (I'm talking my big bro & his wife about) I'll keep that in mind. I know there will always be pit falls when discussing stuff, in fact I put in my lore entries a disclaimer because even if it's fantasy setting I thought I should mention that this a general overlook & millage may vary & there's always an exception of "rule" for lack of a better word.

I've tried looking around to come up with names & ways to describe their cultures & skin color, with the latter coming up with, HERE'S THE OVER 9 THOUSAND WAYS NOT TO DO IT! & yet never a list of how to do.
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Re: Artist/writer's advice thread

Postby DelilahdaDirtyDork » Mon Apr 16, 2018 3:13 pm

Me and one of my friends have this bad habit when it comes to our writing we noticed. I've had this thing happen since high school so a few years now. Some times when it comes to certain stories in a lot of cases we get too excited for all these cool things we want to have happen in further chapters but I'll be darned if we ever managed to get TO that part. I got all the great idea for these later chapters and it's like "Great what you got for chapter 3?" "...." :doh:

I think part of it is at least with my one Succubus love story is the set up. It's not something I can personally relate to have knowledge about. My would be couple start out as room-mates in college. Leo the male lead only having a year & half to go. It's 3rd chapter (the one I'm working on currently) where they go to the zoo. It's random choice for their first day to hang out I know but the appeal is the idea that they both as a brony & furry respectively are getting inspiration for their art skills & Anne our secret succubus learns that despite her secret, animals with their super natural 6th sense aren't freaking out at her walking around. Which is a small comfort to her. But outside of that it doesn't really have anywhere to go.

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Re: Artist/writer's advice thread

Postby Rainbow Dasher » Mon Apr 16, 2018 3:22 pm

Can you write out of order or does that hinder you? I've always been an "out of order" writer, for the most part. Rarely do I write a story, from start to finish, in sequential order. If I have an awesome scene I'm thinking about, I write it when the idea comes to me, placing it in the proper spot within the story, later.
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Re: Artist/writer's advice thread

Postby DelilahdaDirtyDork » Tue Apr 17, 2018 6:02 pm

Rainbow Dasher wrote:Can you write out of order or does that hinder you? I've always been an "out of order" writer, for the most part. Rarely do I write a story, from start to finish, in sequential order. If I have an awesome scene I'm thinking about, I write it when the idea comes to me, placing it in the proper spot within the story, later.


Oh I can write out of order that's my problem. I got TONS of notes for like future chapters of stuff. I guess part of it trip me up sometimes. Because sometimes I'll be writing like....okay example. Say for a moment I've written Event C. That's done, so I decided to back to Event B, well sometimes because I might forget what happened in C I'll write something in B that might contradict what I previous wrote. Or I'll edit something & add to it only to learn I wrote something is making the situation take place before/after when I wanted to originally.

A good example & something I was able to fixed, Leo asks Anne what happen to her & I originally wanted to have him ask it just after he discovered she's a succubus, but what I added implied that this conversation was after they got together as a couple. Lucky this was an easy fix & was rather fortuitous because I basically have him ask it 2nd time. The 1st time he asks chronologically, she gives a small answer with "I don't want to talk about it right now," it works slow down the story to breath and makes it more emotional real.

My problem is like I said, I get so wrapped up with all these cool idea for things that work later in the story I'm having trouble with chapters that lead up to those events. The quiet or simple moments that build up the friendship that leads into the romance.
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Re: Artist/writer's advice thread

Postby Curiosa » Tue Apr 17, 2018 6:36 pm

Rainbow Dasher wrote:Can you write out of order or does that hinder you? I've always been an "out of order" writer, for the most part. Rarely do I write a story, from start to finish, in sequential order. If I have an awesome scene I'm thinking about, I write it when the idea comes to me, placing it in the proper spot within the story, later.


I can write out of order but I prefer sequential. Less continuity errors that way. Rewrites I definitely do out of order. :stick:


Any of you guys have a part of writing you love? Mine is dialog. I just love having characters interact with each other. Sometimes I'll think of a funny interaction and I'll just giggle over it until I compose myself long enough to articulate it to other people. Yeah, I'm such a dork.

Researching is a close second. Finding some obscure yet fascinating chunk of lore to add to your worldbuilding brings me such joy. Really gets the creative juices flowing, you know? Like I found out that an old pirate superstition is that when they broke an egg they'd have to break it into really tiny pieces or it would attract witches :mystery: and I just picture this moment where novice sailors witness a couple of seasoned veterans frantically smashing a shell to pieces.

Novice: " :bugeyed: "
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Vet 1: (nonchalant) "witches."
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Re: Artist/writer's advice thread

Postby Rainbow Dasher » Tue Apr 17, 2018 6:51 pm

Curiosa wrote:
I can write out of order but I prefer sequential. Less continuity errors that way. Rewrites I definitely do out of order. :stick:


Any of you guys have a part of writing you love? Mine is dialog. I just love having characters interact with each other. Sometimes I'll think of a funny interaction and I'll just giggle over it until I compose myself long enough to articulate it to other people. Yeah, I'm such a dork.

Researching is a close second. Finding some obscure yet fascinating chunk of lore to add to your worldbuilding brings me such joy. Really gets the creative juices flowing, you know? Like I found out that an old pirate superstition is that when they broke an egg they'd have to break it into really tiny pieces or it would attract witches :mystery: and I just picture this moment where novice sailors witness a couple of seasoned veterans frantically smashing a shell to pieces.

Novice: " :bugeyed: "
*beat*
Vet 1: (nonchalant) "witches."
Vet 2&3: "witches."



Writing sequentially often leaves me more stuck than writing out of order. I'm odd that way.

I love dialogue, and I *love* writing conflict and drama. It really gets the juices flowing. Research can be fun, too, depends on what I'm looking for.
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Re: Artist/writer's advice thread

Postby DelilahdaDirtyDork » Tue Apr 24, 2018 2:14 pm

Curiosa wrote:Any of you guys have a part of writing you love? Mine is dialog. I just love having characters interact with each other. Sometimes I'll think of a funny interaction and I'll just giggle over it until I compose myself long enough to articulate it to other people. Yeah, I'm such a dork.

Researching is a close second. Finding some obscure yet fascinating chunk of lore to add to your worldbuilding brings me such joy. Really gets the creative juices flowing, you know? Like I found out that an old pirate superstition is that when they broke an egg they'd have to break it into really tiny pieces or it would attract witches :mystery: and I just picture this moment where novice sailors witness a couple of seasoned veterans frantically smashing a shell to pieces.



Hmm...favorite part of writing... well learning all kinds of lore for the background of my stories is cool. I also really like the story just happens naturally. Like I'll get an idea going then the wheels start to turn and everything falls into place. MMm! That feels nice. It actually happened when I invented Solar Girl, I saw one nudist super hero chick as a gag, I'm like "I wonder how you could do a nudist and be taken seriously. Well...as a civilian she would probably be interested in the environment, her powers would like maybe be the reason she's naked so sun powers and then....(a while later) Her name Solar Girl...holy crap this actually sounding pretty good!" And the rest as they say is history. I've finished and posted issue 6 and am currently working issue 7 which is part 1 of a big 4 part story. Should be fun.
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