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Re: Artist/writer's advice thread

Postby Curiosa » Wed May 16, 2018 2:31 am

Time to let my dork flag fly.

So if I recall, faceclaim is where you pick a picture of someone who exists IRL and declare "Yeah, this is what my character looks like". If that is the case, anyone ever voice claim? I dunno if its an official thing, i just know I'm more likely to pick what a character sounds like before I figure out what they look like. :mystery:

I blame my habit of imagining my characters doing musical numbers. I'm a big dork for musicals that I either end up planning a storyarc that's a musical or a musical version of the story. And I'm definitely one of those people that shouldn't write musicals (best I've got going for me is lyrics and I'm not even that good at it) but its something I like to indulge in. The lyrics I write will never see the light of day. :misc4: :blush:

Like I have a minor character that doesn't even show up in my planned musical storyarc but I still voice claim someone from a musical for his voice. Not a single song for him, I just like how this actor did this entitled obsession that might be the direction I'm going with this character I'm writing. I dunno who this actor is, sometimes my only exposures to different musicals is through YouTube and no one cradits the singer when posting the songs. :doh:

anyways, for that particular example its whoever plays JD from this recording of the Heathers musical:
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i dunno, I feel like a dork for doing this voice claim stuff but its something that gives the writing process an extra layer of fun for me.
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Re: Artist/writer's advice thread

Postby RainbowNanaki » Wed May 16, 2018 8:25 am

Curiosa wrote:Time to let my dork flag fly.

So if I recall, faceclaim is where you pick a picture of someone who exists IRL and declare "Yeah, this is what my character looks like". If that is the case, anyone ever voice claim? I dunno if its an official thing, i just know I'm more likely to pick what a character sounds like before I figure out what they look like. :mystery:

I blame my habit of imagining my characters doing musical numbers. I'm a big dork for musicals that I either end up planning a storyarc that's a musical or a musical version of the story. And I'm definitely one of those people that shouldn't write musicals (best I've got going for me is lyrics and I'm not even that good at it) but its something I like to indulge in. The lyrics I write will never see the light of day. :misc4: :blush:

Like I have a minor character that doesn't even show up in my planned musical storyarc but I still voice claim someone from a musical for his voice. Not a single song for him, I just like how this actor did this entitled obsession that might be the direction I'm going with this character I'm writing. I dunno who this actor is, sometimes my only exposures to different musicals is through YouTube and no one cradits the singer when posting the songs. :doh:

anyways, for that particular example its whoever plays JD from this recording of the Heathers musical:
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i dunno, I feel like a dork for doing this voice claim stuff but its something that gives the writing process an extra layer of fun for me.


Yeah, I try and do voice claims for my Ocs, since it helps add that extra bit of inspiration/understanding when I'm writing. Although it an be really hard when I have a very specific voice-type in mind and I just want to find a reference to confirm that sounds as good as I thought!
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Re: Artist/writer's advice thread

Postby Curiosa » Wed May 16, 2018 2:26 pm

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Yeah, I try and do voice claims for my Ocs, since it helps add that extra bit of inspiration/understanding when I'm writing. Although it an be really hard when I have a very specific voice-type in mind and I just want to find a reference to confirm that sounds as good as I thought!


Sometimes for me I'll have a voice I'd like to use but no character to match. Like I'd love to have a male siren character voiced by Peter Hollens
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On an unrelated note, I have a lot of fun writing dorky yet romantic/sexy banter despite it being out of my usual wheelhouse (I like writing horror, fantasy, and science fiction) that more or less become OTP prompts for me.

Character B: *tries and awkwardly fails to do something sexy*
Character A: (in a stern, unamused tone) "[Character B's full name] are you trying to seduce me?"
Character B: (stammering) "no- I mean yes- I mean, maybe- if you'd like- if not that's fine-"
Character A: (relaxed tone) "Well it's working, take the rest of your clothes off."

Smooth dialog is nice, but give me that awkward, funny shit any day of the week. I find the latter more relatable, and it reflects a lot in my work. For example, I have a supporting character that keeps acting flirty with my MC. Part of the former's act is that he builds himeself up as this suave guy, an ex con man who can seduce damn near anyone, but past that facade he's more of a dork than he wants most folk to know (he plays ukelele for crying out loud). Its really only when he lets his guard down around the MC that he's able to make any romantic progress with him, and his flirting gets a little more funny and nuanced.

I really like the idea behind the five love languages. Not entirely sure how legit it is IRL, but I find it a useful tool for fleshing out characters, especially the ones I plan to write romantic arcs for. I also like to apply it to platonic relationships as well. For example, I have a cop character that always has food and snacks on them and shows empathy via sharing, especially with their partner who tends to neglect their own health. Its fun for me to explore how these characters express affection for another, platonic or otherwise.
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Re: Artist/writer's advice thread

Postby DelilahdaDirtyDork » Mon May 21, 2018 10:33 pm

Curiosa wrote:
On an unrelated note, I have a lot of fun writing dorky yet romantic/sexy banter despite it being out of my usual wheelhouse (I like writing horror, fantasy, and science fiction) that more or less become OTP prompts for me.

Character B: *tries and awkwardly fails to do something sexy*
Character A: (in a stern, unamused tone) "[Character B's full name] are you trying to seduce me?"
Character B: (stammering) "no- I mean yes- I mean, maybe- if you'd like- if not that's fine-"
Character A: (relaxed tone) "Well it's working, take the rest of your clothes off."

Smooth dialog is nice, but give me that awkward, funny shit any day of the week. I find the latter more relatable, and it reflects a lot in my work. For example, I have a supporting character that keeps acting flirty with my MC. Part of the former's act is that he builds himeself up as this suave guy, an ex con man who can seduce damn near anyone, but past that facade he's more of a dork than he wants most folk to know (he plays ukelele for crying out loud). Its really only when he lets his guard down around the MC that he's able to make any romantic progress with him, and his flirting gets a little more funny and nuanced.

I really like the idea behind the five love languages. Not entirely sure how legit it is IRL, but I find it a useful tool for fleshing out characters, especially the ones I plan to write romantic arcs for. I also like to apply it to platonic relationships as well. For example, I have a cop character that always has food and snacks on them and shows empathy via sharing, especially with their partner who tends to neglect their own health. Its fun for me to explore how these characters express affection for another, platonic or otherwise.


I've heard of Love language but the not the idea of the 5 of them. I'm rather curious as to what they are. And I personally love Cheezey/Cornball dialog with stuff,what can I say, I'm help/hopeless romantic type of person.

For me, I found something I know sounds like a no duh & OCD but with at least one of my stories I've managed to compile most of my notes in a chronic logical order & I made a small list of the events in simple terms (like chapters but not always) that I want to happen and then rearranged them to When I want them to happen. Made things a lot easier. And helped me notice a few continuity errors I could fix.
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Re: Artist/writer's advice thread

Postby SabreMutt » Thu May 24, 2018 12:39 pm

I am familiar with the idea of various Love Languages, and how everyone basically has preferred ways to show love to others, as well as certain types of expressions of love will have more impact on them.

For example some people are very physical, and like to give or receive a lot of hugs, kisses, and other types of touching. Some people are very much into deep conversations, talking together, and feeling they are listened to or understood. Then there are other people who prefer some of the other things - it could be gifts, it could be favors, and I forget what that fifth one was.

Obviously most people are going to be a kind of mix, with one or two things predominant and they still may appreciate the other categories of showing affection, but not everything ranks equally in each person.

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I hadn't heard before of anyone doing voice claims for a character, but it sounds like a cool idea and could provide a little more inspiration/help to add another layer to the planning process and eventual story.
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Re: Artist/writer's advice thread

Postby Rainbow Dasher » Thu May 24, 2018 4:02 pm

^ Can't say I've heard of "voice claims" for an OC before, either. That said, when I face claim a character for something I'm working on, I tend to take the voice right along with it. But voice alone...I've never heard of anyone doing that. Learn something new every day.
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Re: Artist/writer's advice thread

Postby Curiosa » Wed Jul 04, 2018 12:24 am

Anyone else feel like you've sooner or later ended up on a watch list for researching certain subjects for your writing? I'm lucky enough to know one active nurse and two other people who have been to nursing school that I can ask medical questions, but other stuff I gotta dive into Google and ask some shifty questions. Like how to make thermite, assault statistics, toxicology, the mechanics of secret rooms, stuff like that. I swear Google, I'm not up to no good, I'm just a writer! :doh:

I dunno, I'm doing some research and I'm thinking "this isn't the sketchiest thing I've done research on."

Lately I've been writing some stuff from a werewolf's perspective. He's comparing livestock behaviors while he's hunting and I realized I don't know jack about how livestock really react to predators. So research time. At the moment I'm skimming and it's somewhat boring, but if I can do anything it's read boring research papers on the herding behaviors of livestock.
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Re: Artist/writer's advice thread

Postby DelilahdaDirtyDork » Sat Jul 07, 2018 9:44 pm

Curiosa wrote:Anyone else feel like you've sooner or later ended up on a watch list for researching certain subjects for your writing? I'm lucky enough to know one active nurse and two other people who have been to nursing school that I can ask medical questions, but other stuff I gotta dive into Google and ask some shifty questions. Like how to make thermite, assault statistics, toxicology, the mechanics of secret rooms, stuff like that. I swear Google, I'm not up to no good, I'm just a writer! :doh:

I dunno, I'm doing some research and I'm thinking "this isn't the sketchiest thing I've done research on."

Lately I've been writing some stuff from a werewolf's perspective. He's comparing livestock behaviors while he's hunting and I realized I don't know jack about how livestock really react to predators. So research time. At the moment I'm skimming and it's somewhat boring, but if I can do anything it's read boring research papers on the herding behaviors of livestock.


I don't know, I'm slightly a naive/optimistic person who has often a little too much faith in humanity that often gets proven wrong at what I think is common sense. But as I've learned common sense is bit of an oxymoron these days. ANYWHO...

I think personally they do have to consider like legitimate things & take into account that the internet is used by EVERYONE, so I imagine if anything they are looking for very specific patterns on things. But in more cynical view point is you're probably on list already for watching porn & being on here, but also visiting websites meant for kids because you like cartoons for I all know. You know like how at a video rental store you rented a porno movie for yourself, but you also got a Disney movie for your kid too. You can make all kinds of assumptions. I'm no expert I'm just a dirty dork. I'm not entirely sure but writers & content creators in general bound to have these kind of things happen. Keep in mind you have generas of things like Fictional Wars & post-apocalypses, and generally horror stuff. One wonders how anyone feels comfortable being in horror movies, especially if they're kids like in the girl who plays Samara from The Ring or the boy on the bike meeting the creep twin girls in the Shining.
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Re: Artist/writer's advice thread

Postby Curiosa » Sun Jul 08, 2018 12:49 am

DelilahdaDirtyDork wrote:Me on the other hand...I'm wondering where the hell my writing mojo went. I've looked back on some of my projects and I was writing pages upon pages. One chapter had 79 pages worth of stuff, I didn't realize it until after I wrote it and totally forgot about it until recently. Now I'm struggling to make a 10 page chapter happen.What happened to me? :mystery: :psyduck:


Like holy crap, I feel you. I used write like 7-15 pages per day back when I was fresh out of high school. Somewhere in my storage there is a door stopper I wrote that's just 70+ chapters of demons, hunters, high school students and androgynous protagonists. And it was all intended to be delivered in comic book form back when I used to draw. I do not write nearly that amount in a week, and that's if I write at all. Though, that was also back whenever I got into Writer ModeTM I'd neglect everything else- food, hygiene, my grades, chores. Once went three days without food because I wanted to finish writing a cerain arc! :surprised: I don't write as much as I used to, but I also learned to take better care of myself. I like to think I've swapped quantity for quality since I take extra care with the scenes. Still there's always a mixture of excitement and dread when you find and read your old work.
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Re: Artist/writer's advice thread

Postby DelilahdaDirtyDork » Thu Jul 19, 2018 9:12 pm

So here's a weird coincidence I learned about today. One of my inspirations for Solar Girl my nudist super hero was Loxie & Zoot a nudist comic. Turns out the creator of the comic writes his own super hero comic that's still running even today. And I knew of a few artists on DA who did the super hero & nudist shared world ideas too. So apparently there is some market for my girl. Maybe... it's encouraging to say the least. I just thought I share how odd that combo came up a few more times.
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