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Re: Artist/writer's advice thread

Posted: Wed May 16, 2018 2:31 am
by Curiosa
Time to let my dork flag fly.

So if I recall, faceclaim is where you pick a picture of someone who exists IRL and declare "Yeah, this is what my character looks like". If that is the case, anyone ever voice claim? I dunno if its an official thing, i just know I'm more likely to pick what a character sounds like before I figure out what they look like. :mystery:

I blame my habit of imagining my characters doing musical numbers. I'm a big dork for musicals that I either end up planning a storyarc that's a musical or a musical version of the story. And I'm definitely one of those people that shouldn't write musicals (best I've got going for me is lyrics and I'm not even that good at it) but its something I like to indulge in. The lyrics I write will never see the light of day. :misc4: :blush:

Like I have a minor character that doesn't even show up in my planned musical storyarc but I still voice claim someone from a musical for his voice. Not a single song for him, I just like how this actor did this entitled obsession that might be the direction I'm going with this character I'm writing. I dunno who this actor is, sometimes my only exposures to different musicals is through YouTube and no one cradits the singer when posting the songs. :doh:

anyways, for that particular example its whoever plays JD from this recording of the Heathers musical:
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i dunno, I feel like a dork for doing this voice claim stuff but its something that gives the writing process an extra layer of fun for me.

Re: Artist/writer's advice thread

Posted: Wed May 16, 2018 8:25 am
by RainbowNanaki
Curiosa wrote:Time to let my dork flag fly.

So if I recall, faceclaim is where you pick a picture of someone who exists IRL and declare "Yeah, this is what my character looks like". If that is the case, anyone ever voice claim? I dunno if its an official thing, i just know I'm more likely to pick what a character sounds like before I figure out what they look like. :mystery:

I blame my habit of imagining my characters doing musical numbers. I'm a big dork for musicals that I either end up planning a storyarc that's a musical or a musical version of the story. And I'm definitely one of those people that shouldn't write musicals (best I've got going for me is lyrics and I'm not even that good at it) but its something I like to indulge in. The lyrics I write will never see the light of day. :misc4: :blush:

Like I have a minor character that doesn't even show up in my planned musical storyarc but I still voice claim someone from a musical for his voice. Not a single song for him, I just like how this actor did this entitled obsession that might be the direction I'm going with this character I'm writing. I dunno who this actor is, sometimes my only exposures to different musicals is through YouTube and no one cradits the singer when posting the songs. :doh:

anyways, for that particular example its whoever plays JD from this recording of the Heathers musical:
► Show Spoiler


i dunno, I feel like a dork for doing this voice claim stuff but its something that gives the writing process an extra layer of fun for me.


Yeah, I try and do voice claims for my Ocs, since it helps add that extra bit of inspiration/understanding when I'm writing. Although it an be really hard when I have a very specific voice-type in mind and I just want to find a reference to confirm that sounds as good as I thought!

Re: Artist/writer's advice thread

Posted: Wed May 16, 2018 2:26 pm
by Curiosa
RainbowNanaki wrote:
Yeah, I try and do voice claims for my Ocs, since it helps add that extra bit of inspiration/understanding when I'm writing. Although it an be really hard when I have a very specific voice-type in mind and I just want to find a reference to confirm that sounds as good as I thought!


Sometimes for me I'll have a voice I'd like to use but no character to match. Like I'd love to have a male siren character voiced by Peter Hollens
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On an unrelated note, I have a lot of fun writing dorky yet romantic/sexy banter despite it being out of my usual wheelhouse (I like writing horror, fantasy, and science fiction) that more or less become OTP prompts for me.

Character B: *tries and awkwardly fails to do something sexy*
Character A: (in a stern, unamused tone) "[Character B's full name] are you trying to seduce me?"
Character B: (stammering) "no- I mean yes- I mean, maybe- if you'd like- if not that's fine-"
Character A: (relaxed tone) "Well it's working, take the rest of your clothes off."

Smooth dialog is nice, but give me that awkward, funny shit any day of the week. I find the latter more relatable, and it reflects a lot in my work. For example, I have a supporting character that keeps acting flirty with my MC. Part of the former's act is that he builds himeself up as this suave guy, an ex con man who can seduce damn near anyone, but past that facade he's more of a dork than he wants most folk to know (he plays ukelele for crying out loud). Its really only when he lets his guard down around the MC that he's able to make any romantic progress with him, and his flirting gets a little more funny and nuanced.

I really like the idea behind the five love languages. Not entirely sure how legit it is IRL, but I find it a useful tool for fleshing out characters, especially the ones I plan to write romantic arcs for. I also like to apply it to platonic relationships as well. For example, I have a cop character that always has food and snacks on them and shows empathy via sharing, especially with their partner who tends to neglect their own health. Its fun for me to explore how these characters express affection for another, platonic or otherwise.

Re: Artist/writer's advice thread

Posted: Mon May 21, 2018 10:33 pm
by DelilahdaDirtyDork
Curiosa wrote:
On an unrelated note, I have a lot of fun writing dorky yet romantic/sexy banter despite it being out of my usual wheelhouse (I like writing horror, fantasy, and science fiction) that more or less become OTP prompts for me.

Character B: *tries and awkwardly fails to do something sexy*
Character A: (in a stern, unamused tone) "[Character B's full name] are you trying to seduce me?"
Character B: (stammering) "no- I mean yes- I mean, maybe- if you'd like- if not that's fine-"
Character A: (relaxed tone) "Well it's working, take the rest of your clothes off."

Smooth dialog is nice, but give me that awkward, funny shit any day of the week. I find the latter more relatable, and it reflects a lot in my work. For example, I have a supporting character that keeps acting flirty with my MC. Part of the former's act is that he builds himeself up as this suave guy, an ex con man who can seduce damn near anyone, but past that facade he's more of a dork than he wants most folk to know (he plays ukelele for crying out loud). Its really only when he lets his guard down around the MC that he's able to make any romantic progress with him, and his flirting gets a little more funny and nuanced.

I really like the idea behind the five love languages. Not entirely sure how legit it is IRL, but I find it a useful tool for fleshing out characters, especially the ones I plan to write romantic arcs for. I also like to apply it to platonic relationships as well. For example, I have a cop character that always has food and snacks on them and shows empathy via sharing, especially with their partner who tends to neglect their own health. Its fun for me to explore how these characters express affection for another, platonic or otherwise.


I've heard of Love language but the not the idea of the 5 of them. I'm rather curious as to what they are. And I personally love Cheezey/Cornball dialog with stuff,what can I say, I'm help/hopeless romantic type of person.

For me, I found something I know sounds like a no duh & OCD but with at least one of my stories I've managed to compile most of my notes in a chronic logical order & I made a small list of the events in simple terms (like chapters but not always) that I want to happen and then rearranged them to When I want them to happen. Made things a lot easier. And helped me notice a few continuity errors I could fix.

Re: Artist/writer's advice thread

Posted: Thu May 24, 2018 12:39 pm
by SabreMutt
I am familiar with the idea of various Love Languages, and how everyone basically has preferred ways to show love to others, as well as certain types of expressions of love will have more impact on them.

For example some people are very physical, and like to give or receive a lot of hugs, kisses, and other types of touching. Some people are very much into deep conversations, talking together, and feeling they are listened to or understood. Then there are other people who prefer some of the other things - it could be gifts, it could be favors, and I forget what that fifth one was.

Obviously most people are going to be a kind of mix, with one or two things predominant and they still may appreciate the other categories of showing affection, but not everything ranks equally in each person.

...

I hadn't heard before of anyone doing voice claims for a character, but it sounds like a cool idea and could provide a little more inspiration/help to add another layer to the planning process and eventual story.

Re: Artist/writer's advice thread

Posted: Thu May 24, 2018 4:02 pm
by Rainbow Dasher
^ Can't say I've heard of "voice claims" for an OC before, either. That said, when I face claim a character for something I'm working on, I tend to take the voice right along with it. But voice alone...I've never heard of anyone doing that. Learn something new every day.

Re: Artist/writer's advice thread

Posted: Wed Jul 04, 2018 12:24 am
by Curiosa
Anyone else feel like you've sooner or later ended up on a watch list for researching certain subjects for your writing? I'm lucky enough to know one active nurse and two other people who have been to nursing school that I can ask medical questions, but other stuff I gotta dive into Google and ask some shifty questions. Like how to make thermite, assault statistics, toxicology, the mechanics of secret rooms, stuff like that. I swear Google, I'm not up to no good, I'm just a writer! :doh:

I dunno, I'm doing some research and I'm thinking "this isn't the sketchiest thing I've done research on."

Lately I've been writing some stuff from a werewolf's perspective. He's comparing livestock behaviors while he's hunting and I realized I don't know jack about how livestock really react to predators. So research time. At the moment I'm skimming and it's somewhat boring, but if I can do anything it's read boring research papers on the herding behaviors of livestock.

Re: Artist/writer's advice thread

Posted: Sat Jul 07, 2018 9:44 pm
by DelilahdaDirtyDork
Curiosa wrote:Anyone else feel like you've sooner or later ended up on a watch list for researching certain subjects for your writing? I'm lucky enough to know one active nurse and two other people who have been to nursing school that I can ask medical questions, but other stuff I gotta dive into Google and ask some shifty questions. Like how to make thermite, assault statistics, toxicology, the mechanics of secret rooms, stuff like that. I swear Google, I'm not up to no good, I'm just a writer! :doh:

I dunno, I'm doing some research and I'm thinking "this isn't the sketchiest thing I've done research on."

Lately I've been writing some stuff from a werewolf's perspective. He's comparing livestock behaviors while he's hunting and I realized I don't know jack about how livestock really react to predators. So research time. At the moment I'm skimming and it's somewhat boring, but if I can do anything it's read boring research papers on the herding behaviors of livestock.


I don't know, I'm slightly a naive/optimistic person who has often a little too much faith in humanity that often gets proven wrong at what I think is common sense. But as I've learned common sense is bit of an oxymoron these days. ANYWHO...

I think personally they do have to consider like legitimate things & take into account that the internet is used by EVERYONE, so I imagine if anything they are looking for very specific patterns on things. But in more cynical view point is you're probably on list already for watching porn & being on here, but also visiting websites meant for kids because you like cartoons for I all know. You know like how at a video rental store you rented a porno movie for yourself, but you also got a Disney movie for your kid too. You can make all kinds of assumptions. I'm no expert I'm just a dirty dork. I'm not entirely sure but writers & content creators in general bound to have these kind of things happen. Keep in mind you have generas of things like Fictional Wars & post-apocalypses, and generally horror stuff. One wonders how anyone feels comfortable being in horror movies, especially if they're kids like in the girl who plays Samara from The Ring or the boy on the bike meeting the creep twin girls in the Shining.
I mean we sometimes wonder what the hell the writer of 50 Shades of Grey were thinking.

Of course you know the old saying, If you assume you make an A** out of you & me. I wouldn't worry too much.

Me on the other hand...I'm wondering where the hell my writing mojo went. I've looked back on some of my projects and I was writing pages upon pages. One chapter had 79 pages worth of stuff, I didn't realize it until after I wrote it and totally forgot about it until recently. Now I'm struggling to make a 10 page chapter happen.What happened to me? :mystery: :psyduck:

Re: Artist/writer's advice thread

Posted: Sun Jul 08, 2018 12:49 am
by Curiosa
DelilahdaDirtyDork wrote:Me on the other hand...I'm wondering where the hell my writing mojo went. I've looked back on some of my projects and I was writing pages upon pages. One chapter had 79 pages worth of stuff, I didn't realize it until after I wrote it and totally forgot about it until recently. Now I'm struggling to make a 10 page chapter happen.What happened to me? :mystery: :psyduck:


Like holy crap, I feel you. I used write like 7-15 pages per day back when I was fresh out of high school. Somewhere in my storage there is a door stopper I wrote that's just 70+ chapters of demons, hunters, high school students and androgynous protagonists. And it was all intended to be delivered in comic book form back when I used to draw. I do not write nearly that amount in a week, and that's if I write at all. Though, that was also back whenever I got into Writer ModeTM I'd neglect everything else- food, hygiene, my grades, chores. Once went three days without food because I wanted to finish writing a cerain arc! :surprised: I don't write as much as I used to, but I also learned to take better care of myself. I like to think I've swapped quantity for quality since I take extra care with the scenes. Still there's always a mixture of excitement and dread when you find and read your old work.

Re: Artist/writer's advice thread

Posted: Thu Jul 19, 2018 9:12 pm
by DelilahdaDirtyDork
So here's a weird coincidence I learned about today. One of my inspirations for Solar Girl my nudist super hero was Loxie & Zoot a nudist comic. Turns out the creator of the comic writes his own super hero comic that's still running even today. And I knew of a few artists on DA who did the super hero & nudist shared world ideas too. So apparently there is some market for my girl. Maybe... it's encouraging to say the least. I just thought I share how odd that combo came up a few more times.

Re: Artist/writer's advice thread

Posted: Sat Sep 29, 2018 9:09 am
by DelilahdaDirtyDork
*exhales heavily* ...Okay. I hate being indecisive. I’ve been trying for oh god at least a year now that I think about it to pick out a particular thing. I’ve been working on my Succubus love story in a lot of notes and there is one important part I STILL have yet to decide on. I have a few choices and several good reasons why each choice would work but… then I talk myself right out of why that one won’t work.

This why I hate shopping for myself. “Oh I kind of would like this. Yeah but do you really...well...kinda...maybe...eeehh….” UGH! Okay, so My Succubus chick Annette, the love interest of the story, identifies her gender as female but that’s not entirely accurate. She is biologically a hermaphrodite. She was born with both fully functioning parts. Part of the reason why I have this is that her girl-cock is meant to be kind of a running theme of the story. Leo (our male lead) is meant to learn to get over the fact she has this extra appendage (Something Anne is kind of proud of), and then later he learns to use that learn to accept her demonic fetchers, (Something Anne hates about herself). While I will say it's just a coincidence it is one one hell of one as it almost as if there's some kind of connection to to her being a herm & a succubus. Because when Anne was a younger teenager right around the same time she accepted her being herm, that's when she woke up one day out of nowhere got batwings & tiny horns. Then when Leo decides "Screw it, I don't care if she's a pervy futa girl, I wanna be with her!" That's when he comes home to find her with her demonic fetchers out.

The thing I’m have trouble picking out is what in the world should Anne’s gear set up looks like. I have seen way too much Futanari hentai, so I know there are lots of choices to pick from. I know 2 hard nos that I don’t want, I want her to have both a dick & pussy, so she’s not just a girl with boobs & a cock. And I saw one version of a futa design where apparently the penis pops of the vagina like a tongue (it’s hentai I’m not questioning the logic in it). Which just seems a bit too weird and really unrealistic, like even for this kind of situation.

I know there's like the dick-clit which is the most medically accurate, There's the classic dick on top and her balls are invisible/internal. There's the one where it looks her nuts are one on either side her puss, There's the full package where her full guy parts that drapes over the girl parts. I think at one time I asked before but it's gone and I've long forgotten the answer. Is there a fellow futanari fan out there? what's your favorite design? And what do you peeps thing her gear should look like?

Re: Artist/writer's advice thread

Posted: Fri Dec 28, 2018 4:53 am
by Tallon
Could really use some advice about now. In my main manuscript, the protagonist (who has been hinted to be gay), has a special connection to another (male) character. I won't reveal the ending, but I do want to know people's opinions. I don't want to make my protagonist's sexuality a selling point or plot device. It is what it is. How does one handle homosexuality subtly?

Re: Artist/writer's advice thread

Posted: Wed Jan 02, 2019 7:21 pm
by DelilahdaDirtyDork
Tallon wrote:Could really use some advice about now. In my main manuscript, the protagonist (who has been hinted to be gay), has a special connection to another (male) character. I won't reveal the ending, but I do want to know people's opinions. I don't want to make my protagonist's sexuality a selling point or plot device. It is what it is. How does one handle homosexuality subtly?


Well...I suppose it depends on some of the context of story. I have a couple of non hetero characters. If it's not a plot device like the guy actually come to terms with his sexuality and coming out of the closet for himself, than really the best way to handle it is well...surprisingly not drawing attention to it & treat it as just a thing that is. I have a girl character is openly bisexual and she had thing with guy once now she's trying to hook up with this girl that she likes.

Oh sure I draw a little attention it, it is part of her character as a person. Like how she doesn't get along with her mother because of it because the mom thinks she's "confused." But out of all the issues she dealing with in her stories, her being bi is a foot note.

And I know that seems like such an odd piece of advice & can be tricky to pull off because some mainstream media are really bad about it. Have the story focus on the guys other problems his main problems and goals and such related to the story. Bad media I've seen is the constant reminder that this person is x. To give a gross exaggeration don't have him do this, "Omg I'm gay. Did I mention I'm gay? Because I'm gay. Oh it's sucks being gay. Here's a list of what us gay people have to cope with. It's so hard to deal with the fact that I am gay and that my parents don't approve and other guys think I'm a wuss, and OH THE PAIN OF IT ALL!"

Your main character should not be a one note person that hammers in the fact that he's gay. Do not use stereotypical flamboyance "I WANNA BE FABULOUS!" Treat him like a real person. Write him like any other person you would except when he's perusing a relationship, its with another guy.

I know I tend to over think things sometimes, cause you wanna do it right & more often than not when your dealing with a touchy subject for some, you wanna be sure. And sometimes we're using to doing the research when it comes to things we don't know jack about.

Re: Artist/writer's advice thread

Posted: Thu Feb 21, 2019 3:06 am
by DelilahdaDirtyDork
It's been awhile since I was on and posted on something, especially here. I'm currently having a struggle with a rewrite of a character. Its one of my non erotic stories and is a fantasy adventure story. Two siblings from modern day Earth eventually find themselves on a different planet/possibly different universe after dying. Seth our main hero died of a heart problem while on the operation table. When he wakes up he's on a beach with a new steam punk style heart replacing his old one and with only faint memories of who is (that eventually comes back). His sister Megan out of grief of losing her big brother and her life is hollow with a deadend job and no social life, commits suicide by drowning herself, and yet through unexplained means some how ends up reuniting with her brother. Though while her brother is geeking out about how cool it is to fight Orcs & Goblins and even dragons, Megan really wants to go back home to her internet & cars.

Originally I had it in my head I was gonna do a Scifi meets Fantasy, Aliens and Robots vs Elves and Dragons. And while I'm kind of keeping some of the ideas it's not the main plot of the story anymore. Megan's character I'm rewriting because originally she was gonna have this biomechanical armor kind of like Venom, Blue Beetle, or Guyver to give her something interesting to deal with. But since I'm not doing the sci-fi stuff and doing just swords & sorcery, her alien suit also has to be scrapped. Seth's metal heart is currently a mystery but I'm going towards that it might be crafted by the gods for some kind of important purpose.

The story is still being fleshed out so I haven't really decided on the significance of our siblings just yet but I'm also trying to avoid the whole "Ermehgewd ze ch00zen wuns!"thing. Chosen One storylines I feel is over used and I even poke fun at the idea of it with Seth going, "I'm an artist from another universe who's been having memory issues and is a total dork. What make me so gosh darn gee wilikers special?" I wanna give Megan some kind of interesting gimmick for her, in terms of her personality she's a bit more grounded, not quite at first believing in magic, and constant is butting heads with her brother. He's willing to fight a dragon because people need his help, she thinks he's doing it to be cool, and tries talking him out of it because dragons are huge fire breathing lizards and he's some guy in leather armor whose skill set is to sneak around and hide in the shadows (his job class if he was in a rpg is the theif, Megan's a shield maiden) He talks about following your dreams, she's realistically talking about responsibility despite the fact he already knows. One says Jacob the other one Edward (not really) these two don't agree on a lot.

Any suggestions would be nice.