About all those "Dragon sex doll" topics

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Re: About all those "Dragon sex doll" topics

Postby Devillen » Thu Jan 06, 2011 8:15 pm

Nemekh wrote:
Kami123 wrote:However, BD already got toys which might be in your mentioned "zoophilia zone". Razor - dog, Chance - stallion, David - wolf (kind of).
So it would not be that offensive if making a canine doll - at least for me. I am open-minded about that. A doggy dummy already exists, though it is meant to satisfy your doggy. :D
Dog Sex Toy

IMO, Devillens idea is pretty interesting. Why having troubles with plushy-fandom when having fun with dragon toys? ;)
And have in mind, a plushie is always better to smooch and hug than a plastic toy or an action figure.
*Hugs his plush Minotaur* <3

Generally, I'd love to have a full body dragoness or canine or whatever doll. Though it must not be a full size 3-meters-tall-real-looking chunk of a female dragon.
I really wish this kind of toys will be real in some years.


The aforementioned toys are all Anthro' characters and while depicting animal traits are purely fictional/fantasy and not living animals. Now whether someone's individual fantasy is imagining them as actual animals - that's a different matter and irrelevant to the toys' characters and subsequently BD as it's down to the consumer themselves.

When things cross over to feral/actual animal shapes, that enters an a certain area which may have legal conflicts depending on the country. An anthro dragoness doll as a depiction of Janine (or whoever) should be fine, a feral dragon doll is 'fantasy' creature but goes into that grey area although should be ok, whereas dolls like that dog I'd imagine would be a no.

That's purely my opinion mind you, and while I don't know the full extent, from my talks with Varka it's similarly along the lines of why BD does not do livecast toys.

The key may be to sell the doll and skins separately. That way the doll is just a sex doll with no real look of anything but a mostly feature less other then eyes and the placements for the play parts. The hide, if you will, can the be applied to the doll. You could have a dragon, a werewolf, a horse, a dog, and what ever else you want in the same toy. If BD makes the tit toy that would even make it possible for one doll to work as male, female, or herm, just by changing out what toys you have attached and what hide you have on it. This would also make it very easy to clean.
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Re: About all those "Dragon sex doll" topics

Postby RomanHyena » Fri Jan 07, 2011 7:31 am

Devillen wrote: The key may be to sell the doll and skins separately. That way the doll is just a sex doll with no real look of anything but a mostly feature less other then eyes and the placements for the play parts. The hide, if you will, can the be applied to the doll. You could have a dragon, a werewolf, a horse, a dog, and what ever else you want in the same toy. If BD makes the tit toy that would even make it possible for one doll to work as male, female, or herm, just by changing out what toys you have attached and what hide you have on it. This would also make it very easy to clean.


I really like this idea. The basic foam shape or whatever inside filling was used could always be the same basic shape with an applied layer of silicone. So all toys would be the same shape and size (and they would ALWAYS be anthro, of course!) But the differences would just be the little bit of texture on the outside and whatever ears/muzzles/noses the critters have.

This is good. Although I believe it would be cheaper production-wise to create a foam insert with breasts and one without rather than trying to attach them to the toys afterward. Still would only take two molds, one with breasts and one or two inner openings for a dragoness/type masterbation sleeve, and on the males perhaps a slot shaped like |/\| where you slide the base of the toy under the inverted V with toy sticking up to hold it in place, and perhaps a snap-type closure to hold it steady for riding ;)

I think the silicone outer layers should only come in one color due to the amount of work involved in creating and coloring them. Say you want the dog shell- it will be colored like Razor and only like Razor. You want chance? It will be colored like Chance and only like Chance. This would have the benefit of making production quicker as there is need only for the basic colors of each character, the work would be better and higher quality because this is a complex product but the skill level will rise and you guys will learn what works and can continue using the same method for that character each time, and it can also cut production times because when a mold is empty you guys could make one of that skin to have handy for the next order since there is no customizing involved in the dolls themselves, only the toys people attach to them. =)

Of course it would be up to you guys, but I have put a lot of thought into this and have lots more ideas where those came from. ^.^
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Re: About all those "Dragon sex doll" topics

Postby RomanHyena » Mon Jan 10, 2011 10:20 am

I am wondering whether the issue here might be that the furry sex doll has never really been tested grand scale on the market and a silicone model, even with a foam core, would be very complex and costly to produce even on a preproduction or testing basis and potential customer base is largely unknown because there is no base for comparison (that I am aware of). perhaps it would be better to release blowup doll versions first because they would likely be easier to produce and certainly cheaper. once those were out it would give an indicator of the market size for this type of item, and would also be a good indicator of the price limit on this type of item and would show whether it would be cost-effective or even possible to branch into more complicated dolls or whether it may be just as well to stay with blowup models.
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Re: About all those "Dragon sex doll" topics

Postby Logan Storm » Wed Jan 12, 2011 2:53 pm

While it sound and looks like a good idea problem is in shipping prices, the bigg and heavyer
the package the mor eit will cost to ship, for those who live out side the states not to mention
V.A.T and Custom's Tax.

But main problem I would see is in the moulding all the detailed parts let alone trying to cover
the entire surface wth fur or realistic scales, a blow up verient may be easier but then again you
would have to forgo the scale/fur sensation against your skin in favour of a printe ddesign over
the matieral of the blow up doll.
And to be honest blow up dolls aren't as good or look as good as they show on the box or
advertisment.


But that's just my opinon heh :oops:
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Re: About all those "Dragon sex doll" topics

Postby ByyakoKitsune69 » Wed Jan 12, 2011 10:05 pm

http://www.amazon.com/Pipedream-Extreme ... _hpc_2_img

How about something like that? it looks like it can be fun
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Re: About all those "Dragon sex doll" topics

Postby Kami123 » Sat Jan 15, 2011 4:42 am

Yes! Something like that just with an animal / dragon form and perhaps with a rubber dragon head or something.
If this price is regular, such a toy would not be much more than 500$ / 400€ including R&D costs and a new 3D printer to create big pieces like this.

I guess this is exactly what some people here want to see from BD. They just had rubber in their mind for the body instead of full silicone like this toy seems to be.
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Re: About all those "Dragon sex doll" topics

Postby Varka » Sun Jan 16, 2011 12:32 pm

....I reported on our plans regarding sex dolls at the Adult Dragon Panel on friday night at Further Confusion... When I get back from FC, I'll post up the stuff that we exhibited there. ;)

You're gonna love it. :D
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Re: About all those "Dragon sex doll" topics

Postby Blackymoon » Sun Jan 16, 2011 1:20 pm

I'd also pay more than the regular BD toy to get my hands on something like this *oh the pun XD *

And damn Varka...move your butt back here, we non-FC-goers want to know (even more NOW that you mention it) what you guys are up to! :D
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Re: About all those "Dragon sex doll" topics

Postby RomanHyena » Sun Jan 16, 2011 5:42 pm

I am so excited! Wonderful news, can't wait to see what you guys have 'cum' up with ;)
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Re: About all those "Dragon sex doll" topics

Postby ByyakoKitsune69 » Sun Jan 16, 2011 8:28 pm

me too it'll be something good I'm sure!
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Re: About all those "Dragon sex doll" topics

Postby candy8teen » Sat Feb 12, 2011 5:46 pm

Varka
Let me know if you need some help this sounds like a fun project.
I have been making molds and dolls for some time.
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Re: About all those "Dragon sex doll" topics

Postby RomanHyena » Sun Feb 13, 2011 6:48 pm

Varka wrote:....I reported on our plans regarding sex dolls at the Adult Dragon Panel on friday night at Further Confusion... When I get back from FC, I'll post up the stuff that we exhibited there. ;)

You're gonna love it. :D


Umm... a post never came, so I am wondering if an update will be made about the revelation about FC, cuz all I know about is Mary.
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Re: About all those "Dragon sex doll" topics

Postby Wolfman390 » Mon Jan 09, 2012 5:36 pm

First of all just the topic brought me here. I... have been lonely.... and damn it I would love a furry doll to love of Natascha the Anthro Husky :D I saw the post about how some things in the category would be okay and some wouldnt. I need to weigh in here. While the issue can be raised on one level as to be potentially deemed illegal, in the same breath there is 1 detail that makes that impossible. A loophole if you will. Certainly if one were to make a love doll that looked like an actual animal per se, complications would arrise. If someone was selling a figure that looked exactly how say dogs look, there would probably be a problem, no denying it, but little food for thought, while selling, owning, and useing a doll like that would be a step ultimatly moving away from furry fandom (I can almost hear the wtf are you talking about groans now, bear with me) because they would be too similar to real animals. Theres the loophole right there. Most exapmles of furry fandom contain ANIMORPHISED ANIMALS! In "english" they are animals but their body shape, while being slightly altered is more similar to a human beings, and thus that fact removes any notion of illegality due to they are, at that point, representations of a fictional creature and thus the creation, manufacature, distribution or ownership of any love doll as long as it doesnt fully resemble the creature its modeled after is as safe and legal as one of Janine. Also in addition, it is pertected by the same laws regarding culture, private ownership, art, and self expression. Case closed. Plus, very good buissness, such love dolls would be a tremendous additive to profit for BD, an already awsome site, and as one of if not the first seller of such an item, you would corner the market, quite honestly I want one of Natascha right now, name your price Vargas! Quite honestly I would rather do it and make the money myself but I dont have the start up money to make such dolls or I would in a heartbeat, rather than giving you legal and marketing advice that could make you a LOT more money.... On a side note, make them good ;) all female dolls should have 3 holes! you could even raise the price if you used the toys you already have for sale and stich them into the dolls for the genetals (but make a back door penetratable. Smaller entrance, tigher grip you know) you could also make them removable for cleaning. Just please *on my knees begging* make me a natascha doll! :P ;)
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Re: About all those "Dragon sex doll" topics

Postby Wolfman390 » Mon Jan 09, 2012 7:38 pm

Whats more, theres this website I found doing the exact same thing we are talking about but they are doing a crappy job and are getting no buissness cause well. If the products dont speak for themselves, the brand isnt as well publisized as bad dragon, not even close.


http://www.teddy-babes.com/furry.html
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Re: About all those "Dragon sex doll" topics

Postby Ice Kitten » Sun Jan 15, 2012 11:20 pm

Nemekh wrote:
Kami123 wrote:However, BD already got toys which might be in your mentioned "zoophilia zone". Razor - dog, Chance - stallion, David - wolf (kind of).
So it would not be that offensive if making a canine doll - at least for me. I am open-minded about that. A doggy dummy already exists, though it is meant to satisfy your doggy. :D
Dog Sex Toy

IMO, Devillens idea is pretty interesting. Why having troubles with plushy-fandom when having fun with dragon toys? ;)
And have in mind, a plushie is always better to smooch and hug than a plastic toy or an action figure.
*Hugs his plush Minotaur* <3

Generally, I'd love to have a full body dragoness or canine or whatever doll. Though it must not be a full size 3-meters-tall-real-looking chunk of a female dragon.
I really wish this kind of toys will be real in some years.


The aforementioned toys are all Anthro' characters and while depicting animal traits are purely fictional/fantasy and not living animals. Now whether someone's individual fantasy is imagining them as actual animals - that's a different matter and irrelevant to the toys' characters and subsequently BD as it's down to the consumer themselves.

When things cross over to feral/actual animal shapes, that enters an a certain area which may have legal conflicts depending on the country. An anthro dragoness doll as a depiction of Janine (or whoever) should be fine, a feral dragon doll is 'fantasy' creature but goes into that grey area although should be ok, whereas dolls like that dog I'd imagine would be a no.

That's purely my opinion mind you, and while I don't know the full extent, from my talks with Varka it's similarly along the lines of why BD does not do livecast toys.


On the topic of this sense someone brought it back to life, isn't the dolphin actually modeled after a feral not an anthro?
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Re: About all those "Dragon sex doll" topics

Postby Shaminar » Tue Jan 17, 2012 9:51 pm

Yay! This topic's back!

I soo want a dragoness doll; who else wants to 'play' with Janine? I'm sure Duke wont mind (he IS a porn star, after all)
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Re: About all those "Dragon sex doll" topics

Postby True Pleasures » Thu Jan 19, 2012 8:46 pm

Nemekh wrote:This is a well known thing in Japan, with their "candy dolls" but honestly, this company vis a vis the ones from Japan (the url I had in mind of one of the main ones evades me atm), these ones are way creepier in a more "I'm closer to a mannequin" way rather than "I'm awesome at fulfilling your fantasies!".


Yeah, the ones on that site are the things nightmares are made of... I've seen some really well-made Japanese dolls, though. Eerily, a lot of them look just like a real person that's just been charmed with immobulous.
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